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Hey guys

I've been looking at SSDs for a while and finally ive decided to possibly purchase one.

However my questions are will Sata 2 SSDs be alot slower in boot / response times in windows than a Sata 3 drive .

Do you use AHCI or IDE ? or does it depend on the Drive .

Plus do all SSDs support TRIM ?

I was looking at Either Intel or OCZ.

Thanks

Ben
post #2 of 16
As far as real world you won't see a difference between sata 2 or 3
run in achi
yes all support trim
as far as brand, just find the best deal either of the 2 you mentioned will be fine, once you get into ssd they are so fast you don't notice much difference between one or another, only in benchmarks will difference appear
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-SATA2 SSD > SATA3 HDD (Hard drives don't even reach sata 2 speeds, so sata 3 is wasted. Newer SSDs are now utilizing SATA3, but only for continuous transfers, which aren't common)
-AHCI, IDE is old
-All new SSDs support TRIM
-I went with intel because it had the least number of scary "it failed, had to RMA" stories on newegg.
Edited by ____ - 6/7/11 at 11:14pm
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-SATA2 SSD > SATA3 HDD (Hard drives don't even reach sata 2 speeds, so sata 3 is wasted. Newer SSDs are now utilizing SATA3, but only for continuous transfers, which aren't common)
-AHCI, IDE is old
-All new SSDs support TRIM
-I went with intel because it had the least number of scary "it failed, had to RMA" stories on newegg.
Haha yea i was looking at Intel over OCZ .

Thanks for advice
post #5 of 16
Hi Benny

No, SATA II ssd's will not be much slower than SATA III versions unless their access times and read speeds are substantially lower (Think 1st generation consumer SSD's like the original Vertex and such. They will be slower, but not substantially).

Always use AHCI mode if you want TRIM to function on your SSD.

No, all SSD's don't support TRIM. However, nearly all 2nd generation & later models do.

I wouldn't consider OCZ atm. They are having all sorts of problems with their Vertex 3's. Concerning the Vertex 2's, I feel like someone should open a class action suit against them. Reasons being, they swapped to a much lower performing 25nm nand in the midst of the production run. With no external changes that anyone would ostensibly notice, simply adding an "E" in the model number. Which still shows the performance specs of the original 32nm model, whilst having only 2/3's the performance & 1/2 the write cycle lifespan.

Hope that answers some of your questions
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Hi Benny

No, SATA II ssd's will not be much slower than SATA III versions unless their access times and read speeds are substantially lower (Think 1st generation consumer SSD's like the original Vertex and such. They will be slower, but not substantially).

Always use AHCI mode if you want TRIM to function on your SSD.

No, all SSD's don't support TRIM. However, nearly all 2nd generation & later models do.

I wouldn't consider OCZ atm. They are having all sorts of problems with their Vertex 3's. Concerning the Vertex 2's, I feel like someone should open a class action suit against them. Reasons being, they swapped to a much lower performing 25nm nand in the midst of the production run. With no external changes that anyone would ostensibly notice, simply adding an "E" in the model number. Which still shows the performance specs of the original 32nm model, whilst having only 2/3's the performance & 1/2 the write cycle lifespan.

Hope that answers some of your questions
Thanks for the help

I was thinking the Intel 320 Series either 40gb or 80gb.
post #7 of 16
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Originally Posted by Benny99 View Post
Thanks for the help

I was thinking the Intel 320 Series either 40gb or 80gb.
Np at all I'd prolly go for the 80 gig in your shoes. 40 GB is really tough to manage, especially when you shortstroke it by 20-25% (which ensures that TRIM always has enough room to do it's thing). That is a highly recommended thing to do with all SSD's. I settle on a 20% shortstroke personally.

If it's within your budget and available in Aus, I can highly recommend the Crucial M4 as an alternative to the Intel. I'm quite pleased with mine.
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post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by Lucky 13 SpeedShop View Post
Np at all I'd prolly go for the 80 gig in your shoes. 40 GB is really tough to manage, especially when you shortstroke it by 20-25% (which ensures that TRIM always has enough room to do it's thing). That is a highly recommended thing to do with all SSD's. I settle on a 20% shortstroke personally.

If it's within your budget and available in Aus, I can highly recommend the Crucial M4 as an alternative to the Intel. I'm quite pleased with mine.
Yea 80gb sounds like a better option .

On my current Motherboard though i only have Marvell Sata 3 ports not Intel .

So im thinking i would be better off going with a Sata 2 SSD.

Or could i just use the M4 in the Intel Sata 2 port and it would be backwards compatible ?
Edited by Benny99 - 6/7/11 at 11:54pm
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Originally Posted by Lucky 13 SpeedShop View Post
Np at all I'd prolly go for the 80 gig in your shoes. 40 GB is really tough to manage, especially when you shortstroke it by 20-25% (which ensures that TRIM always has enough room to do it's thing). That is a highly recommended thing to do with all SSD's. I settle on a 20% shortstroke personally.

If it's within your budget and available in Aus, I can highly recommend the Crucial M4 as an alternative to the Intel. I'm quite pleased with mine.
Second to the M4, loving my 64GB M4 a lot over my C300. If you are running windows 7 there isn't much to worry about.
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Yea 80gb sounds like a better option .

On my current Motherboard though i only have Marvell Sata 3 ports not Intel .

So im thinking i would be better off going with a Sata 2 SSD.

Or could i just use the M4 in the Intel Sata 2 port and it would be backwards compatible ?
Yeah, SATA III drive are backwards compatible. So no worries there at all The M4 will saturate the SATA II port completely. So there is no downside to it at all. Versus the Intel 320 series, which will by no means use all the bandwidth the SATA II port can offer. The M4 will gorrilla stomp the Intel in read performance.

Just to show you the M4's performance on a SATA III port. My results:




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Second to the M4, loving my 64GB M4 a lot over my C300. If you are running windows 7 there isn't much to worry about.
Same here. I moved up from a C300 as well.
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