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Hi all....

Iam in a dilemma!!

I have 2 PCI slots on my mobo and one of them is taken up with my wifi card.

My XFX 260 covers up the one other remaining PCI slot at the bottom. Or it takes up one of my pci express slots if I plug the graphics card in the top PCI E slot!!

So I have decided I'd rather loose a PCI slot instead of a PCI express slot. But that means I cant use my sound card!! Well I could but I got my wifi card in the 1 last slot thats not covered up!!

You lot think I would still get the same decent quality sound from my mobo audio chipset?

Does it really matter?


I got this sound card: Sound Blaster® X-Fi XtremeMusic - http://support.creative.com/kb/ShowA...aspx?sid=53609

And I got this mobo: Asus M4A78-E - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131368

Thanks
Edited by babyface_yo - 6/8/11 at 8:59am
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That VIA chip is weak ,they have better .Furthermore the drivers seem to suck ,as VIA is not what it once was.
Use the X-Fi if you can.
But why not use the black PCI-E slot for the video ?!
Edited by Dromihetes - 6/8/11 at 2:36am
   
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the black pcie is 8x and the blue is 16x (if crossfire those would be 8x each)

you could try changing the slot and see if you notice a performance loss, and if u can do it at all, some boards dont let you use other than the 16x if only 1 card is used.

other option would be getting a pcie sound card.

one thing its not clear to me, you said you could put the card on the top slot but lose one pcie 1x right?, are you using those anyway?
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the black pcie is 8x and the blue is 16x (if crossfire those would be 8x each)

you could try changing the slot and see if you notice a performance loss, and if u can do it at all, some boards dont let you use other than the 16x if only 1 card is used.

other option would be getting a pcie sound card.

one thing its not clear to me, you said you could put the card on the top slot but lose one pcie 1x right?, are you using those anyway?
Asus engineers never stop surprising me.
So the first slot is secondary ?!
LOL !
He may not loose to much performance ,but why the PCI-E speed is not routed automatically is beyond my understanding.
Bad motherboard design ,wrong choice.
   
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post #5 of 29
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Ok these are the Expansion Slots I have on the mobo:

PCI Express 2.0 x16 2 x PCI Express 2.0 x16
(Single x16 or Dual x8)

PCI Express x 2

PCI Slots x 2


I'm using:

1 x PCI Express - avtermedia HD card

1 x PCI Express - asus USB 3.0 card

So thats both PCI express slots used!!

Then iam using:

1 x PCI slot - Edimax EW-7728In 802.11n PCI WiFi Card

1 x PCI slot - Sound Blaster® X-Fi XtremeMusic

So thats both PCI slots used now!!

The last bit is sloting in the XFX 260 black edtion graphics card.

If I slot it in the bottom (Blue) PCI Express 2.0 slot then I will lose a PCI Slot!! But I slot it in the top (Black) PCI Express 2.0 slot then I will lose a PCI Express slot!!

So I don't know what I should do?!

What compoment do you lot think I should loose??
Edited by babyface_yo - 6/8/11 at 9:28am
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You dont need that USB 3.0 controller IMO.

IIRC ONLY the top slot is 16x, you can check this in GPUz
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You dont need that USB 3.0 controller IMO.

IIRC ONLY the top slot is 16x, you can check this in GPUz
I see now.
The bottom blue PCIe slot is primary 16X. You have to put a VGA-Switch-Card in the top black secondary PCIe slot to make the blue socket run at 16x!! Unless you has 2x graphics card in each 2 x slots then it would only run at 8X each.

Surely the mobo audio chip is better then the sound creative Sound Blaster® X-Fi XtremeMusic card? Because its newer and also has HD audio??

Theres another thing!! My chassis has a HD audio and audio AC97 what one do you think I should go for?

Oh iam so frustrated lol
Edited by babyface_yo - 6/8/11 at 9:16am
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Originally Posted by babyface_yo View Post
The top blue PCIe slot is primary 16X. You have to put a VGA-Switch-Card in the bottom black secondary PCIe slot to make the blue socket run at 16x!! Unless you has 2x graphics card in each 2 x slots then it would only run at 8X each.

I'm just wondering what slot I should cover!! Surely the mobo audio chip is better then the sound creative Sound Blaster® X-Fi XtremeMusic card? Because its newer and also has HD audio??

Thats another thing!! My chassis has a HD audio or audio AC97 what one do you think I should go for?
HD audio, AC97 is ancient. The onboard is no where near as good as your soundcard.

Quote:
Originally Posted by babyface_yo View Post
I def want my HD capture card!! and I also want usb 3.0 even though I have no usb 3.0 devices. Can a usb 2.0 device run faster in a usb 3.0 input??
No. It's useless to you, its useless to most people. The bottleneck is often not in the USB interface speed but rather the actual devices speed itself.

Quote:
Originally Posted by babyface_yo View Post
Wireless card is always nice to have but I do have a usb wireless adaptor.
Wireless card should get you better ping, more reception and less packet loss. Although you have a desktop, why not just use wired? Its better.
Edited by Alex132 - 6/8/11 at 8:54am
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HD audio, AC97 is ancient. The onboard is no where near as good as your soundcard.


No. It's useless to you, its useless to most people. The bottleneck is often not in the USB interface speed but rather the actual devices speed itself.


Wireless card should get you better ping, more reception and less packet loss. Although you have a desktop, why not just use wired? Its better.
Thanks for the replay. I do have a 50MB fiber optic virgn media cable broadbroad running though ethernet. But I though it be usefull to have a wireless card incase my internet ever goes down and I could use my brothers wireless connection!!

I've just discovered something!! I could get a audio PCIE card or slot my usb 3.0 card into the spare black PCIE slot???

The thing is, it says in manual that if you use one graphics card then you will have to put the VGA-Switch-Card in the black slot!!

Do I have to?? If I dont then will the graphics card only run at 8x and not 16x?
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how hard can plugging a graphics card in be?
Also can you write you messages out clearer
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