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[extremetech] Windows 8 ARM wont have x86 emulation support

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Intel, speaking out of turn and damaging its intimate relationship with Microsoft, has revealed that legacy x86-compiled software will not work on the ARM version of Windows 8. In all likelihood, this means that Windows 8 ARM machines -- tablets and smartphones -- will ship with a very small library of compatible apps.
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Ouch.

If software developers don't port, or make new software for ARM based Windows 8, its going to hurt Windows 8 ARM adoption badly. At the same time, if people don't buy Windows 8 ARM devices, its going to hurt developer adoption badly as-well.

Without the support of the already huge library of software currently available , I personally don't see Windows 8 ARM taking off in the laptop market, and with the tablet market, why bother when you already have a huge selection of software for Android/iOS? Without the software, what is Microsoft really bringing to the table?

What do you guys think?
Edited by konoii - 6/8/11 at 12:15am
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I see this as expected. x86 would be a royal pain to emulate on ARM architecture. Can it even be done? I know x86 is a monster in terms of legacy crap.
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Will the ARM version get DirectX?

EDIT: Fix source Noice
Edited by johonm333 - 6/8/11 at 12:16am
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Will the ARM version get DirectX?

EDIT: FIX YOUR SOURCE PLZ
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Originally Posted by konoii View Post
Fixed
Some people post news and don't fix their posts for hours, so I try to be as annoying as possible. /sarcasm

Thanks for fixing it quickly

On-Topic: It's interesting how this will be a non-legacy windows release, potentially removing all bloat, but if I can only play 360 games (on the arm version) I'm not interested.
Edited by johonm333 - 6/8/11 at 12:26am
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I see this as expected. x86 would be a royal pain to emulate on ARM architecture. Can it even be done? I know x86 is a monster in terms of legacy crap.
Actually a large amount of x86 instructions are translated into RISC instructions by the processor before executing. These instructions will translate directly to ARM.


They only thing you'll be missing out on are SSE, MMX, AVX etc...
    
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ARM and x86 are two different things.

I suppose since ARM is becoming powerful enough to run up-until-now x86-only software, it is only natural to assume you could mix.. but unfortunately, it's simply too costly a procedure.

Just think of x86 as Windows and ARM as MacOS. You can share certain files, but the main parts are incompatible.
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ARM may be the future.I wonder what happens to Intel if all the industry switches focus on ARM.
Not beeing able to control who makes the CPU-s must be very annoying for them
   
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Ouch.

If software developers don't port, or make new software for ARM based Windows 8, its going to hurt Windows 8 ARM adoption badly. At the same time, if people don't buy Windows 8 ARM devices, its going to hurt developer adoption badly as-well.

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What do you guys think?
I don't see how it will hurt its adoption. People with the capable ARM hardware will get Windows 8, people on x86 PCs will get Windows 7. 7 will basically be the new XP for a while, MS will keep it going for probably a decade at least, judging by how slow people's adoption of new hardware usually is. Since future CPUs are likely to support x86 for a while, dual booting Win7 and 8 will be your option if you want to run x86 software as well.
Edited by Clap yo' hands - 6/8/11 at 3:30am
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How do you know Microsoft doesn't have an API that is platform independent? Something like Java for example? The next version of Visual Studio could have a compile for Windows 8 option, meaning for ARM, x86 and the likes.
    
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