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[LR] Razer Puts Both Optical & Lazer Sensors In One Mouse

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The 4G Dual Sensor System combines the best of both worlds - an optical and a laser sensor, to deliver twice the level of tracking precision. By allowing calibration of mouse to the surface you’re using, it is primed to optimally track your swipes more rapidly and accurately for the best in-game performance you can actually feel. It also lets you determine the cutoff height for tracking to stop when the mouse is lifted from the surface. This is especially important for gamers who pick up their mice to accommodate wide swiping motions, such as low sensitivity FPS gamers.
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All judgements aside on the Razer brand it's it's quality (or lack there of) this is definitely an interesting concept.

EDIT: Picture and Info of the two sensor setup.
Edited by Tator Tot - 6/9/11 at 8:48am
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post #2 of 49
Very interesting concept indeed.

My Lachesis is the best mouse I've ever owned and it's dead.

Doesn't mean I hate them and won't buy another though. smile.gif
I did frequently catch my foot on the mouse lead, and it'd slam down onto hard flooring, that may have been a factor. The mouse was amazing for the year it worked though.
 
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post #3 of 49
Hmm neat idea, but I love my Diamondback too much to upgrade. smile.gif
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It'll be interesting to see if this truly does deliver twice the performance as promised. I doubt it will, but it is a fairly interesting concept.
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post #5 of 49
I don't know the details of what they did, but I had thought about a similar idea a while ago. If you have two sensors looking at the same thing but from different angles, they might see different things because of light/laser sources, improving accuracy. It also allows for depth perception, by calculating how far apart the images from the sensors are from each other (if not flat against a surface, it will be like it's seeing 'crosseyed'). That allows for a 0mm liftoff distance if you want it, and for improved tracking on uneven surfaces (like a worn out desk top) because it will be able to calculate the speed of the moving surface vs how far away it is from the mouse.

Of course, this is Razer we're talking about, and two different sensors (and therefore always two different images) so I doubt they actually did these things. Most likely they just compare the two images and average the speed between them.
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Off Topic: Still using a mamba i bought on preorder, and it has always worked perfectly. It actually almost looks new.

On Topic: Looks kind of gimmicky to me, but sometime lasers blow so I see how it could be useful for an optical backup and vice versa
    
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Hmm, only time will tell. I wonder if Razer is going to rip off that very design or do something different.

I'd think stuffing more crap into a device would cause more likliness that something will go wrong....then I remembered my computer tongue.gif
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post #9 of 49
Interesting concept.
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Sounds like a ridiculous gimmick to me, but what do I know tongue.gif
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