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Guys! Please watch your language and try to keep things civil.
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I know man. I'm not taking it personally. I was just being a wiseass.

I have to say that while your agreeability is somewhat refreshing it's kind of annoying for those of us not blindly following when someone makes like we should all be sheep and like this stance.

I understand what you mean, I just get aggravated when we have 19 pages of text and approximately 15 of those are people saying the exact same thing, and are ignoring people who has posted previously attempting to tell that is actually true.

Said it before and I'll say it again, I'm on the fence but I'm not encouraged by this move to put the PC version on the back burner. The guy SAYS that Bathesda wants broad accessibility but how is that broadly accessible when it's not being developed for PC. Develop for all and don't leave anybody out. I'm sure it can be done like this...

I think Lordikon addressed these concerns in his article stating that it isn't actually a port in technical terms. I think what they mean originally was that the game was being designed for all 3 systems at the same time, but that the focus was on the consoles because that is where they make the greatest amount of money. As for your last statement, yes it can be done. But I'll amend that with the reality that it cannot be done in a fiscally responsible way. In a perfect world every game from <insert most hated game> to <insert most loved game> fulfills every single genre and the start menu allows you to choo whether you want to play CoD as an RPG with an 80 hour storyline not including quests with stats and the ability to mine ore, forge that into blanks, and use built in CAD software to manufacture your dream weapon, which you then can color in whatever way you want. I don't know about you, but that sounds like a pretty awesome game. Sadly, it would cost an obscene amount of money.

While developing for Console make sure to develop PC compatibility into it at the same time. This means make your graphics at least DX10 capable, make sure controls can be optioned to Keyboard Shortcuts(i.e.WASD mouse scroll feature for weapons etc. you know the general setup) and leave stats alone. It makes no sense to take something that works and tear out all the things that MAKE it work.

This idea can be copy pasted into the reasons everybody hates CoD on OCN, why change something that works? Because it gets stale, and if Bethesda wants to market a game to the masses it cannot be designed the way it used to be, because we spend more money on guns than we do on public education. /soapbox

This is the problem I and many of us have. If I had the OP I'd start a poll asking how many people feel like I do. It's not that we hate the game we're just annoyed that Bathesda says a key phrase like "accessible" and then says they aren't going to include PC in the development, like it's too difficult to develop it for everything. As has been pointed out Developers use emulators.

As said earlier, I believe Lordikon article addresses this. I don't have personal experience in these matters, but a mod seems convinced that Lordikon does and I believe I can trust his/her judgement on that.

*snipped for mods*



~Ceadder
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Another developer hiding behind the veil of 6-7 year old tech, what else is new?

Seeing footage of games like BF3 or RAGE which are PC first games makes me wonder what in gods creation PC games could look and play like right now if we weren't dragging the console's old-as-dirt tech behind us. If a game like Crysis looked like it did 4 years ago(which still looks HEAD and SHOULDERS above any console game), what in the world could we have now if not for consoles??
    
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what in the world could we have now if not for consoles??
CGI looking graphics most likely.
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Guys! Please watch your language and try to keep things civil.
on a forum that turns swear words into *'s?
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I don't fully support on this and i DON'T own a console ever but it won't be long before consoles get hacked again and PC is back on top lulz Is that so WRONG to say? lol.
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CGI looking graphics most likely.
Yeah more than likely, although perhaps we could have surpassed this aswell?
physx would be in alot more games thats for sure
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I agree with Mygaffer's comment he put

I have been a fan since Morrowind and when Oblivion came out and I played it I started to lose faith. After this I don't think I will be actually paying full price for this game (like BF3), instead I will either buy a CD key or wait until the price drops significantly.

I don't really know where this series would be without PC gamers and mods but apparently they rather sell their game stock with no mods and charge consoles gamers for more content ala COD.
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crysis 2, check

skyrim, check
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Yeah more than likely, although perhaps we could have surpassed this aswell?
physx would be in alot more games thats for sure
To play devil's advocate; couldn't one also realistically surmise that we may have been further back because one could say that consoles made gaming significantly more available to the masses, allowing people to play brand new titles for significantly less than it used to cost.

Also, if the aforementioned reality was to have taken place tech would need to be cheaper, otherwise it would turn into something only the rich could do.

It'd be as if all cars ever made cost 750 large and had the Ferrari logo on the front. Every car would be really fast and look amazing, but that would come at a cost to the middle and lower classes where it would be significantly out of their reach. Providing of course, that no advances were made in the field that made that cost decrease significantly. (as an aside, one may argue tech costs as much as it does now because of cheaper systems that provided "equal" entertainment for a much lower cost.)

Not an outright attack on the idea, just food for thought.
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