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its called injected humor into a wine fest, relax the game will be good, this really is non news if u have seen the trailers, not to mention the mod support will allow anything so want some cheese?
Posting a picture of TPB's logo is barely injected humor. You haven't even read the thread. I'm one of the people not whining about stupid crap and feels this game will be great either way.
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I'm excited about this game, being someone who has spent countless hours playing and modding Oblivion. I think I'll withhold judgment until the game is actually released.

It makes me laugh that some people complain about ports and then pirate games. Oh the irony.
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Actually the Steam page specifically states it is optional.
Yeah it's optional. They don't force you to buy anything through their system. It's NOT optional. Only buying is optional therefore they can SAY it's optional.

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No. You ruin gaming by allowing Developers to pass rubbish off as a competent product. If you were more demanding, developers WOULD have to listen. You buy their games after all. They sure as hell don't exist without you.

It's time to step up and expect a solid product for the $60 that you pay at launch. That's all I'm saying.

I've been gaming a lot longer than some of you folks been out of Pampers. I've seen solid games and I've seen games that if they had taken the proper amount of time to develop they would be freakin awesome. GTA IV is just one of those games that if they had gone into it like it was going to be made for PC and ported to Console would have been EPIC.

I've played GTA IV and LCS on the 360. I guarantee that if it had had reasonable controls and solid graphics built into it to begin with you WOULD notice the difference between Console and PC. It would be that noticeable. Instead they made it accessible to everybody but PC and ported over when the demand was high. The demand is there. People just don't take the time to bug the publishers and so the publishers will CONTINUE to force this rubbish down our throats until more people like me say enough is enough.

If and when Consoles start selling upgradeable graphics or until people like you get tired of being ripped off at the Till, this will NOT change for the better.

Develop games for PC, port them over to Console and EVERYBODY will be happy. Cause there is no way someone who only has a Console will be able to tell the difference. This is not that difficult a concept to understand or implement.

~Ceadder
Your posts never cease to amaze me. Nothing you post really makes sense at all and apparently, according to you, console gamers are brain-dead and ignorant. I think it's the opposite, though.

Developers don't respond well to whiners which is all you're doing and you even admit it. Developers respond to constructive criticism and feedback, not people bugging them about stupid things like you seem to think. Get over yourself.
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Develop games for PC, port them over to Console and THE MINORITY will be happy.
Fixed.

Console gamers hate crappy ports as much as PC gamers do. WHat everyone wants is a game that's well optimised for their chosen platform.

If a developer manages to do that then everyone is happy.

Until the game is actually out and in your hands for you to be able to judge it I think you're jumping the gun here.

I can only imagine the PC elitist nerd rage over at the Bethesda forums right now. Actually I have an account there so I think I may go take a look and have a good laugh while I'm at it.
Edited by Lifeshield - 6/9/11 at 12:40pm
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^^^... the minority. What a laugh.



You REALLY cannot be this obtuse on the subject. Or can you?

The developers need us as much or more so than we need them. Without US they don't make money. But if you like being sheep then just keep mouth shut, keep buying incompetently ported rubbish and things run status quo.

But please do not act like I have no right to demand better for my money. Bathesda GAVE us better. It's THEIR fault my expectations are not being met. People want to cry about this that is their prerogative as it is mine.

~Ceadder
Dude, you're talking to people who are content with mediocrity. Just let it go.
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Its a sad sad fact that the console versions will be the lead platforms, but not at all surprising. It is of course a business, so I entirely understand the decision. I don't like it though
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^^^... the minority. What a laugh.
No laugh about it. High end PC gamers are in the minority in comparison to current generation console gamers.

But of course developers and publishers, who have much more knowledge about sales within the gaming industry aren't going to know this and take advantage of it now are they?

Heaven forbid.

You'll get a few niche developers who will develop for the PC first (and all props to them) but most will go where the money is, and you can't really blame them for it either.

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So I should not expect smooth controls from a PC game? Check.

So I should not expect a modicum of clean graphics at DX10? Check.

So I should not expect that when I pay $60 for a new game that it not be buggy, laggy and full of memory leaks?
Who's to say Elder Scrolls V won't have smooth controls?

Did you not play The Witcher 2? Arguably game of the year and some of the best graphics yet seen on PC in DX9? Is it confirmed that Elder Scrolls V is DX9 only? (That's a serious question because I don't know if it is or isn't) Even if it is does that mean it cannot look great on the PC? Wasn't Dragon Age 2, and Aliens vs Predator (among other multi platform games) DX11?

Have you played any game that didn't need a patch at some point?

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Dude, you're talking to people who are not whiny little babies because they can't get what they want. Just let it go.
Fixed.

But seriously, it's not about accepting mediocrity, it's about understanding that the world doesn't just revolve around us.
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At least he was honest about it, I give him kudos on that.
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Dude, you're talking to people who are content with mediocrity. Just let it go.
I'm done. They're only here to shut people up. They're not here for reasonable discourse.

Even the developer cat.

I didn't say I want DX11. That would be nice but for the developers to make money they can't bloody well do it. The MODDER community exists for this reason.

If you're running an emulator ANYWAY, it makes more sense to start at the top and work down. Not start at the middle and work UP and Down. That model only works in the bedroom.

Making the Minority happy? Possibly. But the consoles and handhelds would get a solid product REGARDLESS and that's all that matters to the Console twits. Sorry I feel that I'm taking it in the shorts. I have a console. I like console games. But when I want better graphics I play on PC. It's not like Console games are all that great anyway. Should I list off all the titles I've played over the years that were STRICTLY console that were buggy, laggy and locked up my Consoles?

I apologize for my Elitist attitude. I only want the best for everybody. Not just myself.

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