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Originally Posted by Ceadderman View Post
See your quote above. I was just making fun of an ignorant assumption that PC Gamers are the minority. Most consoles these days are probably used for media entertainment, what with the advent of Netflix and Hulu being piped in through PSN, XBL and Wii Network. This is what Consoles are focusing in on. Making consoles more family friendly. I don't have a problem with this I just find it funny that we PC Gamers are in the minority.

I will once again point out Rental Places as a huge chunk of the market in the States. There are how many Blockbuster Retail Centers in the US? They buy how many copies of one blockbuster launch title to rent to the buying public on launch day? I'm pretty sure they put a minimum of 10 copies on the floor per store. Multiply that number by the 90% of title cost? Maybe a little less?

That's just one rental outlet in the country. And on top of that they're now gunning for GameFly's business. Gamefly has multiple copies as well.

Most people don't buy the game on Launch. They rent it and then if they like it buy. Why waste money on a title you may not like only to get gipped when you go to Game Stop to be rid of a new title? People think the sales numbers prove that there are more console Gamers. That might be true. But one shouldn't try to base this off sales numbers. I worked in sales, I know how easily the figures can be skewed and can generally explain why they are skewed.

You cannot skew PC Game sales figures quite so easily.

~Ceadder
But in this specific case PC gamers are the minority Bethesda said so themselves http://www.neoseeker.com/news/16252-...e-on-consoles/

They dont need us, im suprised they are still including mod tools. Sure Blizzard and Battlefield games sell well on pc but thats because they have MP. I cannot think of single player PC game that has done exceptionally well, and im sure the folks at Bethesda would rather have millions of consoles sales than the paltry 400k sales that the witcher 2 put up; it was good for the witcher2 but not for Bethesda.
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O well Dark Soul > Skyrim in that case.
LOL isnt that only on consoles, which everyone is arguing about in the first place?
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brutuz, I tried to rep you but I gave up trying to scroll to the bottom of your post...
    
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This is why I like having a PS3 and a gaming computer
So you would play it on the inferior system without mods, rather than the superior one? I really do not get the argument in this thread. Your acting like this game is not good enough to be on your PC cause consoles is the main lead so your going to get the inferior more expensive version on consoles anyways? All your doing is showing Bethesda the PC gaming is dying.
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half assed game= gta 4 original released on pc. it was terrible.

If you are going to release on a system, take the time to do it right. treat your customers with the respect they deserve, and maybe they will give it back.
Yeah but how is this half assed when it isnt even out yet? I wager it will be like oblivion which ran pretty well., but even my assumption is just that an assumption cause the game isnt fricken out yet!
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Yeah but how is this half assed when it isnt even out yet? I wager it will be like oblivion which ran pretty well., but even my assumption is just that an assumption cause the game isnt fricken out yet!
Half assed on OCN means not DX11 and playable without tri-SLI GTX 580, get with the program dude
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It's not an ignorant assumption. When you think of the size of the high end PC gamer userbase, in comparison to the console userbase, over two platforms (Xbox 360 and PS3, in some cases even including the Wii) you are going to have to admit the console userbase is the larger.

The high end userbase is the key here, because if we just go by the mid range userbase (which is more than likely where the majority of PC sales are from, you don't need a powerhouse to run most PC games) then all this talk of catering to a PCs power capabilties are pretty much pointless. We may aswell just accept the port as it is.

High end users, where a PC exclusive that actually takes advantage of a PCs hardware capabilities like Multi GPUs, SSD, high resolution texture mods, DX11, and god knows what else (which is what people here want, a game that will make their expensive rigs cry, after all this is an overclocking forum), are in this representation a minority in comparison to the millions of console users out there worldwide.

If it was not true then PC gamers would be getting alot more love than console gamers. You would see PCs as a lead platform on a much larger scale. Developers and publishers, in general, go where there's money to be made and for the larger target audience. They recognise PC as a viable platform for sure, but not as the largest target audience. The majority of the largest selling videogame franchise are on consoles. Some of the biggest sales ever seen for games have been on consoles. It's where the money, and currently the majority, is at.
Okay now let's fix this distinction. You're speaking of High End Gamers. I know for a fact there are many PC gamers who don't even run a Dedicated Graphics card. My first go at Morrowind I had to run it on a HP Notebook. I have friends who don't have Dedicated GPU.

I'm talking in generalized application, you're talking specific application. While high end gamers are in the minority(500 Series/6000 Series owners) not everyone runs what you would consider a high end system.

I have quite few friends who are running onboard graphics that are in the 4000 series and below. Only thing high end about my system IMHO is my MoBo. If I want faster FPS, I have to XFire or go 6K series or both. My GPU stopped being high end when 58** series was introduced.

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doesnt bother me. So was Fallout 3 and it was fine.
Besides the fact that it was the same horrible engine with the exact same issues from Oblivion, sure. Fine it was. I originally played it on Xbox and did enjoy it more than on PC. Mainly because it was my first time around obviously, but also because it didn't have the skipping issue and several others.
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u mad PC non gamers?
.silence...?

Anyways, I'm already over Skyrim. Just hope BF3 wont make a last minute "mistake" like this.

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Hrmm, this translates in my mind as:

"We didn't want to make a good game as much as we wanted to make a good profit."
    
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