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I was in the same boat as you man... I wanted HD and couldn't afford it, so I looked into SD and all I have to say is DON'T DO IT...

Unless you are a tech genius, to record in SD you will also need to play in SD (as in you will need to do some pretty fancy stuff to play in say 720p and scale it down/record in 480p)... It isn't just a simple matter of plugging the 720p into the dazzle which records in 480p, as the dazzle just won't see that 720p signal...

I use THIS and it works very well, though you will need your PC next to your Xbox or vice versa for easy access... The included software isn't like studio quality, but it is pretty good and allows you to record 720p out of the box pretty easily... It also compresses as well so you aren't getting like 10gb 5 minute video or something...

The only issue I have ever had was in HDMI splitters... Most are pretty terrible and good ones are few and far between... And you will need a splitter because there is about 1 second response difference between what is shown recorded on your PC and what is actually happening on your system, so it is really difficult to play from just watching your recording stream...

Well thanks, that actually really helped/summed everything up! biggrin.gif Yea I don't think I could go back to playing SD again, haha. So could you list the cables I would need if I were to get this one instead of the Dazzle?

Thanks for EVERYONES help! biggrin.gif
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Well thanks, that actually really helped/summed everything up! biggrin.gif Yea I don't think I could go back to playing SD again, haha. So could you list the cables I would need if I were to get this one instead of the Dazzle?

Thanks for EVERYONES help! biggrin.gif

You would need 3 HDMI cables (length depends on how far apart you have everything...)

And you would need a power/amplified HDMI splitter because a straight splitter just wouldn't work (I found that out the hard way)... [ame="http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Splitter-Amplifier-Dual-Display/dp/B0015YRMXI/ref=acc_glance_e_ai_ps_t2_t_4"]This[/ame] one has decent reviews and is $21...

That's it... It would be set up like this (bad poorly made paint picture):
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Basically your 360 would be attached to the input on that splitter/amplifier... Then one of the outputs would be going to the cap card (which will be inside your PC in a PCI slot)... The other output would be going to your display that you game on...

So you play like normal on your primary screen while you record over on your PC...

EDIT: Oh and if you are using an older Xbox with no HDMI or you just use component anyways... You would just need a similar setup only a component splitter/amplifier and 3 sets of component cables... If you look at the cap card, it has 2 HDMI ports, one of them isn't actually HDMI it is a port that hold this cable dongle that comes with the card with RGB Component/Composite connectors (so you can record HD component or SD composite with it as well)....

I don't know where to get one of those component splitters though, I have never used one...
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You would need 3 HDMI cables (length depends on how far apart you have everything...)

And you would need a power/amplified HDMI splitter because a straight splitter just wouldn't work (I found that out the hard way)... This one has decent reviews and is $21...

That's it... It would be set up like this (bad poorly made paint picture):
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Basically your 360 would be attached to the input on that splitter/amplifier... Then one of the outputs would be going to the cap card (which will be inside your PC in a PCI slot)... The other output would be going to your display that you game on...

So you play like normal on your primary screen while you record over on your PC...

EDIT: Oh and if you are using an older Xbox with no HDMI or you just use component anyways... You would just need a similar setup only a component splitter/amplifier and 3 sets of component cables... If you look at the cap card, it has 2 HDMI ports, one of them isn't actually HDMI it is a port that hold this cable dongle that comes with the card with RGB Component/Composite connectors (so you can record HD component or SD composite with it as well)....

I don't know where to get one of those component splitters though, I have never used one...

Thank you SOO much! I game on 1080p so I can just use the HDMI splitter. And that picture actually is easy to figure out. Do you think cheaping out on the HDMI splitter would be fine like a $10 one, or should I get the $20 one? I'm not a pretty tight budget here. How do I actually record? Will the tuner have software to use?
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Thank you SOO much! I game on 1080p so I can just use the HDMI splitter. And that picture actually is easy to figure out. Do you think cheaping out on the HDMI splitter would be fine like a $10 one, or should I get the $20 one? I'm not a pretty tight budget here. How do I actually record? Will the tuner have software to use?

The cap card has software, that can record, but you can use any 3rd party recorder like xfire (which is still free I think), fraps, etc... Though 3rd party stuff doesn't compress much so the video files will be very large...

The software included with the card compresses, and I would usually get like 150mb per 1 minute of video or something like that (been a while since I recorded something) at 720p...

I don't think this device can display 1080p, I think it goes up to 1080i... For 360 though that doesn't really matter because there are only like 2 games on the 360 that actually display a 1920x1080 image... 99.999% of 360 games render at 720p and upscale if you set it to 1080p... So I suggest just setting it to 720p... It will look the same btw...

Also this device CAN'T record HDCP certified content (meaning copyrighted material)... So you can't record like HD video from Netflix or Hulu on the Xbox, the device can't decode those encrypted streams... Or blu-ray movies if you ever use a PS3 with this... It can record gameplay just fine though...

This is what the included software's interface looks like: LINK

- Basically you choose from that drop down bar which feed to get video from, HDMI, Component, or Composite... Then the stream will start live right there in that black box (you can also make that be full screen by the way)... And you can record with the little action bar down there at the bottom... And the live feed is pretty good, and the picture quality is pretty high, like I said before though, there is a 1 second or so delay between what is shown and what is actually happening... If it wasn't for that delay, you wouldn't even need a splitter or a second display... You could just play right through that live feed... But the delay exists so you need a second display:(
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Okay thanks! So to record do I press the start button on the bottom, or will it automatically record? The same with stopping do I just just stop at the bottom?
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Okay thanks! So to record do I press the start button on the bottom, or will it automatically record? The same with stopping do I just just stop at the bottom?

You just hit the little red circle button to begin recording with that software... A red recorder circle will also appear in the corner of your feed to let you know it is recording (not in the final video), and then you just hit it again to stop...
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You just hit the little red circle button to begin recording with that software... A red recorder circle will also appear in the corner of your feed to let you know it is recording (not in the final video), and then you just hit it again to stop...

Okay gotcha, well I think I've made my choice, once I get some money together I'll get the Avertv one. Thanks for your help Squeets, and everyone else! helpinghand.gif
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