Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Video Game News › [BF3Blog]Battlefield 3 to have 3 times as much DLC as Bad Company 2
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[BF3Blog]Battlefield 3 to have 3 times as much DLC as Bad Company 2 - Page 12

post #111 of 173
Quote:
Originally Posted by ilam3d View Post
Well... I paid 5 for it during an EA special, so that's probably why it didn't look so bad to me. And some of the maps turned out to be fun.
Also paid $5, never even played it yet though :/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blindrage606 View Post
Nickel and dime. Im turing my back... I thought it was supposed to be the savior of PC gaming?
Who says the DLC will cost any money?

If enough people actually voice their opinion that they will not purchase they may just release them for free. DLC might just mean maps as well which BC2 had free ones.
Silence
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 930 @ 4ghz HT Asus Rampage III Extreme ATI 5830 Corsair Dominator GT 6gb CAS 7 
Hard DriveOSKeyboardPower
50gb Vertex 2 - OS,1.5tb Storage Win7 64 bit Saitek Cyborg OCZ 700W 
CaseMouseMouse Pad
Define R3 Logitech G500 Steelseries Glass 
  hide details  
Reply
Silence
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 930 @ 4ghz HT Asus Rampage III Extreme ATI 5830 Corsair Dominator GT 6gb CAS 7 
Hard DriveOSKeyboardPower
50gb Vertex 2 - OS,1.5tb Storage Win7 64 bit Saitek Cyborg OCZ 700W 
CaseMouseMouse Pad
Define R3 Logitech G500 Steelseries Glass 
  hide details  
Reply
post #112 of 173
Quote:
Originally Posted by [nK]Sharp View Post
Who says the DLC will cost any money?

If enough people actually voice their opinion that they will not purchase they may just release them for free. DLC might just mean maps as well which BC2 had free ones.
Who says that it would be free? More than likely than being free, they will charge for DLC as they did with Vietnam.

I just expected more from a game that was heralded on the forums(over and over again) as the best game evar.

Way to turn into a MW DLC, every 5 mins -clone.
 
Alienware 13
(10 items)
 
Alienware Alpha
(6 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 4770k @4.0Ghz MSI Z87 G65 EVGA 980Ti Classified+EVGA 660SC PhysX G.Skill Trident X 16GB @2400Mhz 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Corsair 480GB+1TB WD Black Corsair H100 W10 Pro|Start10 U2713HM+U22 LED+ACz1 Mount 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
RealForce 87U 55g  Corsair HX1050 Corsair 650D Razer DeathAdder+Firefly 
Audio
STX+SP2500, Asgard 2+HD650 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel i7 6500U nVidia GTX 960m OC Samsung 16GB 1.35v M.2 850 EVO 500GB+1TB WD 
OSMonitorKeyboard
W10|Start 10 IPS 4k, Touch Alienware FX 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel i7 4785T @3.2Ghz 8MB nVidia 860m OC vBIOS mod HyperX Impact 16GB DDR3 256GB Samsung SSD+1TB HDD 
OSAudio
W10|Start 10 DragonFly v1.2 
  hide details  
Reply
 
Alienware 13
(10 items)
 
Alienware Alpha
(6 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 4770k @4.0Ghz MSI Z87 G65 EVGA 980Ti Classified+EVGA 660SC PhysX G.Skill Trident X 16GB @2400Mhz 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Corsair 480GB+1TB WD Black Corsair H100 W10 Pro|Start10 U2713HM+U22 LED+ACz1 Mount 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
RealForce 87U 55g  Corsair HX1050 Corsair 650D Razer DeathAdder+Firefly 
Audio
STX+SP2500, Asgard 2+HD650 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel i7 6500U nVidia GTX 960m OC Samsung 16GB 1.35v M.2 850 EVO 500GB+1TB WD 
OSMonitorKeyboard
W10|Start 10 IPS 4k, Touch Alienware FX 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel i7 4785T @3.2Ghz 8MB nVidia 860m OC vBIOS mod HyperX Impact 16GB DDR3 256GB Samsung SSD+1TB HDD 
OSAudio
W10|Start 10 DragonFly v1.2 
  hide details  
Reply
post #113 of 173
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blindrage606 View Post
Who says that it would be free? More than likely than being free, they will charge for DLC as they did with Vietnam.

I just expected more from a game that was heralded on the forums(over and over again) as the best game evar.

Way to turn into a MW DLC, every 5 mins -clone.
BC2 had both payed and free DLC. BF3 will have the same.

i still dont understand the freakout by everyone. I have gone over the situation a dozen times in the thread and still people jump in here and post their end of the world moment.

battlefield 2 featured 2 booster packs, and an expansion back in the day. bf1942 had how many?

Nothing new here folks, just DICE telling us that they are gonna support their game.

Throw your fits all you like folks, you will just look stupid come launch when everyone else is playing a fantastic game and enjoying the well crafted free and payed DLC while you are still wearing your tin foil hat sobbing on your mothers shoulder.
Current build
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
q9950 stock asus p5n-d 5870 4 gb ocz 
OS
windows 7 
  hide details  
Reply
Current build
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
q9950 stock asus p5n-d 5870 4 gb ocz 
OS
windows 7 
  hide details  
Reply
post #114 of 173
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vhati View Post
Throw your fits all you like folks, you will just look stupid come launch when everyone else is playing a fantastic game and enjoying the well crafted free and payed DLC while you are still wearing your tin foil hat sobbing on your mothers shoulder.
With the alternative being MW3, have fun guys
Silence
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 930 @ 4ghz HT Asus Rampage III Extreme ATI 5830 Corsair Dominator GT 6gb CAS 7 
Hard DriveOSKeyboardPower
50gb Vertex 2 - OS,1.5tb Storage Win7 64 bit Saitek Cyborg OCZ 700W 
CaseMouseMouse Pad
Define R3 Logitech G500 Steelseries Glass 
  hide details  
Reply
Silence
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 930 @ 4ghz HT Asus Rampage III Extreme ATI 5830 Corsair Dominator GT 6gb CAS 7 
Hard DriveOSKeyboardPower
50gb Vertex 2 - OS,1.5tb Storage Win7 64 bit Saitek Cyborg OCZ 700W 
CaseMouseMouse Pad
Define R3 Logitech G500 Steelseries Glass 
  hide details  
Reply
post #115 of 173
Quote:
Originally Posted by linkin93 View Post
Sharp I'm still waiting for your reply.

I'm not against DLC. I'm against EA's practices and I'm against Disk Locked Content. DLC is meant to be new content thought up some time after the game has released, not content stripped from what was meant to be in the game and sold as DLC at launch for profit, to boost income from a sub-par game (not that any Battlefield game has been that). Like extra weapons, skins, etc in multiplayer. I'm against pay to win practices and DLC that must be bought and can't be permanently earned in game (as opposed to temporarily, like the M60 in MOH for which DICE did the multiplayer. Unless you bought the game from Gamestop, you got no M60, and the only way to temporarily get it was to pick it up off someone you killed that did have it)

I never expected or said that Battlefield 3 will be good or bad at launch. I said I won't pre-order, won't buy any DLC and won't buy until peer and professional reviews are out, because the past two times I've bought games from EA (MOH and Crysis 2. Both pre-ordered) I've been burnt.

That said, for pre-ordering MOH, I'll have BF3 BETA access, and playing the beta will likely change my opinion of the game, for better or worse.

Am I clear now? Good.
Sharp, you never answered my questions
post #116 of 173
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vhati View Post
it was actually 5 maps. It also had its own vehicles for them, and weapons that for the most part were not available in the original game. Those that were the same behaved entirely different. Then it was entirely new art set, plus they had to record all new audio for vietcong and us troops, then they added all the songs for you to play, all new building that had to be designed to be destroyed also.

$15 for the pack was just fine, you fail to realize that it was quite alot of content for the price, and was large than any booster pack, such as euro force, armored fury, and northern strike. Yet it cost the same.

Some people are just to immature to think about things sometimes.
I don't fail to realise your opinion, Captain DICE, but instead have my own. That doesn't make me immature. You really have to stop doing this kind of thing.

You speak to me like I haven't bought it. I'm fully aware it has it's own vehicles (new helicopters that bounce of bridges fully unscathed!) and a very small, limited weapon set. 10 new weapons spread across 5 classes with some weapons from BC2 included, like the WW2 weapons and the shotgun, makes for a very meagre load out. Compared to BC2, which has at least 5 unique weapons per class.

You need to stop acting like someone is being immature simply because they don't like what you like. I personally didn't find it good value for money and next time, with BF3, I'll be scrutinising the DLC much harder. You also have to realise that people look for different things and look at things differently. Fopr instance, a lot of people think the SPECACT kit is useless. I personally was happy to pay a couple of pounds to have the ability to have 10 custom classes to quickly change between on the fly, of course, along with the new pins, uniform and weapon look (although they picked the most horrible weapons to add it to. Should have made a SPECACT style for all the guns)
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 2500 @ 4,004GHz (1.202v) Asus P8P67-PRO B3 Leadtek GTX260 65nm 896MB 700|1430|1100 4GB DDR3 Muskin 1686MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
2xWD CB 250GB, 2x SG 320GB, 1xSS F1 1TB Pioneer DVD-RW Windows 7 Professional 64bit Samsung 2032BW 20" 1680x1050 16:10 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Lycosa CoolerMaster GX 550W Coolermaster Storm Sniper Razer DeathAdder 
Mouse Pad
Razer Goliathus 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 2500 @ 4,004GHz (1.202v) Asus P8P67-PRO B3 Leadtek GTX260 65nm 896MB 700|1430|1100 4GB DDR3 Muskin 1686MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
2xWD CB 250GB, 2x SG 320GB, 1xSS F1 1TB Pioneer DVD-RW Windows 7 Professional 64bit Samsung 2032BW 20" 1680x1050 16:10 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Lycosa CoolerMaster GX 550W Coolermaster Storm Sniper Razer DeathAdder 
Mouse Pad
Razer Goliathus 
  hide details  
Reply
post #117 of 173
Quote:
Originally Posted by Higgins View Post
People said the same thing when it was released. There are more changes going from BC2 to Vietnam than there are going from MW2 to Black Ops. BC2:Vietnam wasn't as good as it could have been (only 5 maps), but content wise it was completely worth $15.
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulWog View Post
This kind of stuff ruins gaming for me...

I want to buy a game, and be done with it. I'll buy an expansion if it's good, sure. Heck, I'll buy two expansions if the game is good. But all this DLC... it complicates and bogs down the point of it all: relaxing and enjoying your purchase. I don't want to constantly feel like I have to sink more money into a game which is constantly becoming outdated by newer DLC.

Another point: Simple things like the Karkand map should be free. It's complete nonsense what they're doing. I'm considering not purchasing the game at this point.
Quote:
Originally Posted by [nK]Sharp View Post
Also paid $5, never even played it yet though :/



Who says the DLC will cost any money?

If enough people actually voice their opinion that they will not purchase they may just release them for free. DLC might just mean maps as well which BC2 had free ones.




I honestly don't like DLC at all. I think it's a terrible scam and I don't particularly like people buying it so willingly. I own Modern Warfare 2 (against my better judgement. POS is so broken I can't ever get online top play, but even if I could...) and I have outright refused to buy ANY DLC for it and remain steadfast in that action. I will not pay £11 for some maps, nor will I pay half that. I utterly refuse. Not worth the money. They were better off having a big company sponsor the map packs for the PC (or even the consoles) and let those companies get some air space than charging stupid amounts of money for meagre maps.

I'll be buying Battlefield 3, and I'll even pre-order it so I get that KArkand pack for free. But that still doens't stop me being mega pissed at the fact that this game, one I've told all my filthy console gaming peasant friends about ad nauseum, is going to include day one DLC and additional paid-for DLC.

I convinced my friend to buy BC2 for the PS3, and he did, however he picked it up preowned and was hassled about a VIP code every time he played the game. I was so ashamed of myself, pressuring him into getting a game only to figure out it's been nerfed by the anti-preowned initiative started by greedy publishers.

Oh and here's a little image for all you people who harp and cry that games don't cost enough and we should "support the developers" (little known fact that actually, you're supporting the publisher nine times out of ten)



Games out gross movies and have been doing so for at least 5 years (iirc) and yet publishers have gotten gamers to think games need to cost more? Pfft.
Edited by Viridian - 6/12/11 at 3:34am
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 2500 @ 4,004GHz (1.202v) Asus P8P67-PRO B3 Leadtek GTX260 65nm 896MB 700|1430|1100 4GB DDR3 Muskin 1686MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
2xWD CB 250GB, 2x SG 320GB, 1xSS F1 1TB Pioneer DVD-RW Windows 7 Professional 64bit Samsung 2032BW 20" 1680x1050 16:10 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Lycosa CoolerMaster GX 550W Coolermaster Storm Sniper Razer DeathAdder 
Mouse Pad
Razer Goliathus 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 2500 @ 4,004GHz (1.202v) Asus P8P67-PRO B3 Leadtek GTX260 65nm 896MB 700|1430|1100 4GB DDR3 Muskin 1686MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
2xWD CB 250GB, 2x SG 320GB, 1xSS F1 1TB Pioneer DVD-RW Windows 7 Professional 64bit Samsung 2032BW 20" 1680x1050 16:10 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Lycosa CoolerMaster GX 550W Coolermaster Storm Sniper Razer DeathAdder 
Mouse Pad
Razer Goliathus 
  hide details  
Reply
post #118 of 173
Quote:
Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
I honestly don't like DLC at all. I think it's a terrible scam and I don't particularly like people buying it so willingly. I own Modern Warfare 2 (against my better judgement. POS is so broken I can't ever get online top play, but even if I could...) and I have outright refused to buy ANY DLC for it and remain steadfast in that action. I will not pay £11 for some maps, nor will I pay half that. I utterly refuse. Not worth the money. They were better off having a big company sponsor the map packs for the PC (or even the consoles) and let those companies get some air space than charging stupid amounts of money for meagre maps.

I'll be buying Battlefield 3, and I'll even pre-order it so I get that KArkand pack for free. But that still doens't stop me being mega pissed at the fact that this game, one I've told all my filthy console gaming peasant friends about ad nauseum, is going to include day one DLC and additional paid-for DLC.

I convinced my friend to buy BC2 for the PS3, and he did, however he picked it up preowned and was hassled about a VIP code every time he played the game. I was so ashamed of myself, pressuring him into getting a game only to figure out it's been nerfed by the anti-preowned initiative started by greedy publishers.

Oh and here's a little image for all you people who harp and cry that games don't cost enough and we should "support the developers" (little known fact that actually, you're supporting the publisher nine times out of ten)



Games out gross movies and have been doing so for at least 5 years (iirc) and yet publishers have gotten gamers to think games need to cost more? Pfft.
I think DLC is a great idea, so long as it is priced well (which all DICE DLC so far has been). The cost of development and publishing has risen dramatically whilst game prices have not. PC games almost ten years ago were £29.99. I remember paying that for BF1942. I can go and pre-order BF3 for... £29.99.

If games prices have stayed the same and development costs have gone up... well, there is a cost there. With that, you have numerous options:

1. You cut your profits

Not realistic. Publishers and developers are companies. The #1 business priority is generating increased revenue and profits.

2. You make your games more expensive

Again, can only be done to an extent. The target market is a rather cheap one, one with minimal disposable income.

3. You spread the cost

And we have it, DLC. You spread the cost of development across time, thus making the increased price easier for consumers like you and I. We py £29.99 for the game and then, if we want (it's optional), we can pay more for more content.

I know it can seem really annoying to you, but this is real life. Costs do rise and business do need to make profits. DLC is probably the easiest way for companies to keep doing what they are doing with minimal impact to us. Don't want to pay more? Don't buy the DLC, it's really that simple.
post #119 of 173
Quote:
Originally Posted by 98uk View Post
I think DLC is a great idea, so long as it is priced well (which all DICE DLC so far has been). The cost of development and publishing has risen dramatically whilst game prices have not. PC games almost ten years ago were £29.99. I remember paying that for BF1942. I can go and pre-order BF3 for... £29.99.

If games prices have stayed the same and development costs have gone up... well, there is a cost there. With that, you have numerous options:

1. You cut your profits

Not realistic. Publishers and developers are companies. The #1 business priority is generating increased revenue and profits.

2. You make your games more expensive

Again, can only be done to an extent. The target market is a rather cheap one, one with minimal disposable income.

3. You spread the cost

And we have it, DLC. You spread the cost of development across time, thus making the increased price easier for consumers like you and I. We py £29.99 for the game and then, if we want (it's optional), we can pay more for more content.

I know it can seem really annoying to you, but this is real life. Costs do rise and business do need to make profits. DLC is probably the easiest way for companies to keep doing what they are doing with minimal impact to us. Don't want to pay more? Don't buy the DLC, it's really that simple.
I refer once again to the huge arse image I posted. Here it is again for good measure:



Sorry, but I can't agree that games need to be more expensive or that the costs of development should be spread across the timeline of the game. If that's the case, do an expansion, not DLC. An expansion I will happily buy.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 2500 @ 4,004GHz (1.202v) Asus P8P67-PRO B3 Leadtek GTX260 65nm 896MB 700|1430|1100 4GB DDR3 Muskin 1686MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
2xWD CB 250GB, 2x SG 320GB, 1xSS F1 1TB Pioneer DVD-RW Windows 7 Professional 64bit Samsung 2032BW 20" 1680x1050 16:10 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Lycosa CoolerMaster GX 550W Coolermaster Storm Sniper Razer DeathAdder 
Mouse Pad
Razer Goliathus 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 2500 @ 4,004GHz (1.202v) Asus P8P67-PRO B3 Leadtek GTX260 65nm 896MB 700|1430|1100 4GB DDR3 Muskin 1686MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
2xWD CB 250GB, 2x SG 320GB, 1xSS F1 1TB Pioneer DVD-RW Windows 7 Professional 64bit Samsung 2032BW 20" 1680x1050 16:10 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Lycosa CoolerMaster GX 550W Coolermaster Storm Sniper Razer DeathAdder 
Mouse Pad
Razer Goliathus 
  hide details  
Reply
post #120 of 173
Quote:
Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
Sorry, but I can't agree that games need to be more expensive or that the costs of development should be spread across the timeline of the game. If that's the case, do an expansion, not DLC. An expansion I will happily buy.
Trust me, knowing developers at DICE myself, I know the cost has risen, but game prices haven't. Profits have stabilised or increased for good games because of DLC, special editions game packs, deals with websites for betas etc...

Also, what is DLC? Downloadable content. That's all it is, things you pay for to download. Who's to say DICE won't release an expansion pack as DLC. They did with BC2: Vietnam, they did with Euro Forces and Armoured Fury... I suspect they will again.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Video Game News
Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Video Game News › [BF3Blog]Battlefield 3 to have 3 times as much DLC as Bad Company 2