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post #1 of 11
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Hey guys, been visiting overclock for a while every time i need answers, great place. Now i need some people who know a lot more about me to help. I want to build a absolute beast of a gaming PC, the last one i built was 3 years ago, spent heaps and its just about now starting to fade away into meritocracy.

Basically i wanna spend `~$2000, obviously less if possible. I can usually work it out for my self but dam everything has changed. I wanted a i7-960 but apparently the 2600k is better?. But then a motherboard for this CPU does not support triple channel for RAM. Any ideas on the best performing PC i can get. I wanted 2 580s in SLI but my friend said you might as well throw money away. I live in Australia and will most likely get my parts from altech computers, business prices of course!

Thanks for any help gentlemen.

EDIT: just to let you know, i do not want to overclock anything, just want everything to preform on its own.
Edited by actionv - 6/8/11 at 8:41pm
post #2 of 11

For gaming even a 2500k would do great. But if you have that much of a budget, and you do things that would take advantage of hyperthreading (e.g. encoding or rendering) then go with the 2600k. But for just gaming, the 2500k is going to be great. Hypothetically even if a game was 100% multithreaded and used up all available cores/threads, the 2500k with a moderate overclock is STILL going to not bottleneck any video cards on the market. Anyway for a system like that I would do something like:

i5 2500k or i7 2600k
P67 / Z68 board of your choosing (P67 is fine but research the difference)
GTX 570 SLI / single GTX 580
2 x 4 GB RAM (1600mhz - 1866mhz @ 1.5v, whatever is cheap)
Quality 750W - 850W PSU
64 GB SSD you can get a good deal on
Samsung HD103SJ for storage
A moderately priced CPU Cooler, like the Scythe Mugen 2 or Hyper 212+
And a case that you like

And please reconsider overclocking. Overclocking is not just for extreme users anymore. With no more BIOS, the UEFI is a graphical interface that makes it easy to overclock. You don't have to push everything to the limit, just do some moderate overclocking. With the Sandy Bridge processors, overclocking has never been so easy! Consider it a free performance boost, and straight from Intel: it's so easy your grandmother can do it.

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Hey man, im in australia too and ive been researching basically the same as you. Same process aswell. -7-970 to a 115 chip haha. This is what Ive come up with so far. All from umart.com.au (depends on where you live)

umart
Intel Core i5 2500K Processor LGA1155 3.4GHz CPU$219.00
Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H70 High-performance CPU Cooler$149.00
Asus P8P67 Deluxe V3 L1155 P67 4x DDR3 SATA3 SATA2 eSATA RAID USB3$259.00
G Skill 8G(2x4G)DDR3 1600Mhz PC3-12800 CL8(F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM$120.00
MSI GTX570 Twin Frozr II/OC (will SLI later on)$385.00
LG H22NS70 SATA 22X+- Super Multi DVDR Black with Software$ 29.00
NZXT PHANTOM Full Tower case w No PSU White$185.00
Corsair HX-850 ATX Power Supply w 140mm Modular Cables$218.00
Corsair Force Series 60GB SSD (boot/primary programs)$139.00
Samsung 500G SATA II 7200rpm HD502HJ (Secondary installs)$ 45.00
Samsung 2TB Spinpoint F3/4EG EcoGreen HDD 32M x 2 (storage)$190.00
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$1938.00


Ofcourse your case and harddrive needs will vary but this for me is a solid as balls build and right on your budget.
post #4 of 11
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Thanks heaps for the response, both of you. If i DO want to overclock don't i need some super effective cooling contraption, the things Ive seen man. Also whats the best for graphics cards, does SLI really give an explosion in performance?

http://www.altech.com.au/productinfo.aspx?id=32373

That CPU you mean?, whats with the integrated graphics, is that negligible?
Edited by actionv - 6/9/11 at 8:33am
post #5 of 11
If you are gaming the i5-2500K is more than sufficient and you wont see any noticible gain in performance and fps compared to the 2600K. Save yourself 100$ and spend it on a better graphics card or an ssD.

A gtx580 would be great and max out anything on 1920x1080p now and its a single card and would be able to sli later on if you want. SLI does increase performance but not as much as you think. It depends on teh game and if its properly optimized to make use of the cards.
post #6 of 11
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Here is a tentative lineup. The things im not sure of the a) motherboard, i could not find this difference you mentioned and b) there is SO many 580s all seem the same to me. Dont worry about the actual price, I just want to know whats not really necessary, like maybe that power supply.

Intel i5-2500K Core i5 Processor, 3.3GHz
Asus P8Z68 DELUXE MB, Socket 1155, Intel Z68 Chipset
Gigabyte GF GTX 580 Super Overclock PCI-E 2.0 1536MB DDR5 384-bit, 855/4100MHz
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 8GB (2x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 DRAM 1600Mhz, 8-8-8-24, 1.65V.
1000W "Zalman" ZM1000-HP-PLUS Dual Heatpipe Power Supply, 80+% Efficiency
Samsung SH-B123A 12x Blu-ray/DVD Combo Drive
Antec LanBoy Air Blue high-flexibility Gaming Case

Another quick question, do i HAVE to get the duel channel RAM for this motherboard and CPU or am i able to use triple channel RAM?. Thanks heaps!
post #7 of 11
if you want to sli the 580 later on 1000w MAY be necessary but its still more than needed. 850w would be good. Look into a corsair or seasonic they are always good. Triple channel ram has no real benefit at all. Its only used for triple channel boards which the asus z68 is not. Its more for the ROG boards with 6 slots. You dont need it at all. Dual is more than sufficient.

Z68 is basically the next step after p67. It combines both the h67 and p67 and adds SSD caching (research that)
post #8 of 11
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ah cool, thanks mate. Whats the difference between these:

http://www.altech.com.au/productinfo.aspx?id=34673 and
http://www.altech.com.au/productinfo.aspx?id=34663

Theres over $100 dollars difference but they seem similar to me. Could it just be a pricing scheme?
post #9 of 11
An 850w unit would handle SLI'd 580's, don't get a 1kW unit.

The p8z68 deluxe doesn't have an IGP? o.o

If you want to compare these two boards, click "add to compare" on these sites, then "compare."
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Int.../P8Z68_DELUXE/
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Int...t_1155/P8Z68V/

The Antec LANBoy Air isn't a bad case, but I think dust will be a problem. lol. And if you are getting a K-version chip and a z68 board, OC it. You would need a cooler though. Try the Cooler Master Hyper 212+, cheap and good at the same time.
post #10 of 11
He said he doesnt want to overclock...Why would you offer him the K series...Save him some cash and get a 2500 or a 2600...No need for a K series if you do not plan on overclocking....Also the diff between triple and dual channel will not even be noticeable...There is a review on that somewhere around here...I will update this post if I can find it...
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