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Not Sure to post here Im newbie!

Here is my setup

Intel 990x
MSi Big Bang Xpower
12 GB Patriot Sector 5 PC3 17000 2133mhz ram

Im having a bit of trouble: Please any help would be awesome!

I update all drivers, bios everything.

My computer passes memtest all day long overclocked or not.

Prime 95 seems to be able to freeze my computer only when I have all 6 sticks using 12 gb. When I only use one stick it runs stable and i can open and close other programs while running Prime 95. When all 6 are in it will run Prime 95 but it will lock up as soon as I open temperature monitor.

I discovered this after getting random memory management BSOD's and other BSOD's. I turned off OC genie which was my overclocking tool. I run the prime 95 all day long with one stick of ram and with all 6 its sketchy and locks up. Any ideas. I thought it was my motherboard so I bought a new one and it does the same exact thing. I just want to make a stable system so I dont blue screen. Any ideas of how I should proceed. Im contacting the motherboard manufacturer and I will update this thread if I get any more information.
post #2 of 9
12 GB of 2133mhz I don't think is going to happen unfortunately

Anyway, I strongly recommend against using OC Genie. You want to manually tune settings. And in your case, the big thing that is going to help stabilize you is the CPU's memory controller voltage. This goes by different names depending on bios terminology, usually "QPI/DRAM voltage" or "CPU VTT Voltage". When you're running 6 sticks it's going to need a substantial increase, and you also need to increase it when you're running high frequency RAM such as what you have. So basically with these two factors, I strongly doubt you will stabilize it. Intel recommends 1.35v for 24/7 usage, I would personally stay at or under 1.45v. I think most users would agree with a ~1.45v limit.

What I recommend doing is knocking the memory down to 1600mhz, tightening the timings (e.g. 9-10-9 down to 7-8-7 or 6-7-6 maybe), running memtest86+ to actually check for memory stability, then you want to increase your CPU VTT (or QPI/DRAM) voltage to actually stabilize the system. Running LinX or Intel Burn Test on max memory for 20 passes is probably going to let you know the fastest if you're stable.
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Do you recommend I get rid of my ram? I could of went 24 GB of a lower quality ram I guess right?

If so what is good ram for my motherboard and CPU?
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What doesnt make sense to me is its stable not overclocked at all with one stick of ram in it. but when i place all 6 sticks it will lock up. What could be the reason? Is this some kind of hardware issue or does the key to all this rely on what you said by finding the sweet spot of ram. OC genie works pretty good it raises the QPI high enough I think and I can run the blend torture test on Prime 95 but when I try to open a zip file while running the test it locks up. Is it not recommended to open up files while running the torture test?
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So I conclude that OC genie is for the birds. It sets my system to where when I run Prime 95 Blend Torture test it instantly BSOD's and to the pesky Memory Management error.

So I have two questions? Should I keep My Patriot Sec 5 pc 17000 memory or should I get other memory.

Second, If I do keep them what steps should I take to properly tune my system for smooth overclock on my 990x and how do i tune my memory properly so I can run prime 95.

Prime 95 blend test is the only test that recreates the blue screens I experience during game play. I pass memtest and other benchmarks like 3d mark vantage with the oc genie overclock.
post #6 of 9
The more sticks of RAM you're using the more it stresses the system (specifically the CPU because the memory controller is on the CPU). That's why with 1 stick it will pass, but with all 6 slots populated you can't stabilize.

There is no need to buy new RAM. You should do what I said in the last paragraph of my previous post. I wouldn't use prime95 blend test, it takes 10 hours to pass all iterations and could fail at any point during those 10 hours. LinX or Intel Burn Test stress the system harder and faster, so if there is any instability it will also give you an error much faster and only takes about 2 hours to pass I would guess. Then if you really want to you could run blend test overnight.
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Totally agree with Dopamin3! Memory problem & using auto tuning.

Actually you should keep your memory at or under 2000MHz (or as stated above, at or under 1600MHz, and then tighten your timings a bit)
You really need to take memory off auto settings, and set your speed/frequency, DIMM Voltage, and Timings manually.

That much memory will also stress the Northbridge chipset, so a little added voltage there, will help

In your bios, the more you can set manually, the better off you'll be!
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I can run 12GB's of RAM with my 980x.. if RAM speeds are not much higher than 1600mhz, and using 1.35vtt.. i got 1800mhz stable with 12GB's but vtt was unsafe for daily use. As stated.. the more memory you have the more stress you place on the IMC..and the more voltage it will require to function normally.
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msi boards= terrible with memory, just terrible, so off the bat i don't expect your memory to run without a hitch. Increase the qpi.vtt like said and youll prob have to run right under spec for that much RAM unless you wanna bump voltages up. 980x/990x have good IMC, they are different beasts than the bloomfields, but in the end they still have trouble with high density. That being said i have the same RAm as you, there is no need to get a new kit.



Sorry for the rant
Edited by Sin0822 - 6/9/11 at 9:26am
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