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So, the Zalman VF3000F finally hit the shelves for the GTX 580 and I ordered one. Came in yesterday, so I installed it. The process was very easy, and took about 30 minutes. I used IC Perihelion for the RAM and VRMs, and IC Diamond for the GPU. Screwed everything down and ran Heaven for a couple hours. To my surprise, the temps had gone up about 10*C (fan on full). I figured it was a bad mounting, so I removed the cooler and re installed it using some MX-4 (used most of the diamond in the first mounting). The spread looked good, with paste from end to end and very little excess paste squeezed out. Only thing that seemed off was that the paste was very thick (as in, alot of paste in between the gpu and copper plate). I guessed that since MX-4 is a thinner paste maybe that issue would be solved. This time instead of turning the screws hand tight, i used a pair of pliers to go just a little bit beyond hand tight. Temps dropped an additional 10*C, so now it's on par with the stock cooler. Now, I wasn't really hoping for a huge drop in temps, but I was expecting to see a 10*C-15*C drop at load. My idle temps have dropped about 25*C. Anyone that has this cooler have any advice? Should I tighten the heatsink screws as tight as I can with the pliers? Try another TIM (I have GC-Extreme, a little IC diamond, Perihelion, & Shin Etsu)? Not sure what else to do.
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Well it should atleast be so tight that you can't rock it around.

And. If I'm not mistaken, (which I might be) Isn't there some kind of fan control, because maybe the fans aren't too fast. I'm not speaking from experience, only from knowledge, so I could be totally wrong.
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It comes with a fan controller, which I have set to max speed.
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It comes with a fan controller, which I have set to max speed.

Hm.. try fastening it a little more, but I can't promise anything.

Be careful though, you don't want to break that precious PCB.
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You should be getting noticeably lower loading temps.thinking.gif

Some aftermarket coolers don't work well in a vertical position as the FT02 uses. I would think the Zalman would be fine. Maybe someone with experience with the same layout can give some input.

Edit: I found someone with an FT02 and Zalman and it works just fine. You should be loading in the 50's. Since your idle temps have dropped considerably maybe there is something going on with the fan speed.
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Originally Posted by AMW1011;11688817 
With it in my FT02 with 2 FM181 fans (one,being the one underneath the CPU is dead), my GTX 480 never goes over 81c in Furmark with this cooler at 1.138v, the max voltage I can put it at. At 840 MHz on the core and 1.038, my GTX 480 tops out at 71c in Furmark. Note that my house is nice and warm at 74f, and my case likely cools worse than your at the moment.

For a reference, my friend who owns a RV02 with AP181 fans and a stock GTX 480 tops out at 89c at 1.038v (forget core clock).

Edited by Draygonn - 6/9/11 at 1:47pm
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post #6 of 20
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I've given this thing a day to break in and temps still haven't changed. I'm going to try to reseat it again, and try fastening the screws as tight as I can get them. I'll report back tomorrow after it's set in a bit.
post #7 of 20
That is odd for the load temps.
I'm running two VF3000F's, on GTX 480's, and had a drop of 15-25C on load temps, depending on whether it was gaming or running benchmark/stress tests.
Furmark produced the highest temp. reduction, on extreme burn mode over the stock cooler on my EVGA card. In a single-card test, with both the stock and Zalman cooler running at 100% fan speed, the stock cooler on the EVGA 480 allowed the card to go over 100C in about 3 minutes until I shut down Furmark. With the Zalman, it maxed out at about 75C after 5 minutes.
The Zotac AMP has always had a Zalman on it of course, but it performs about the same as the retail version I fitted on the EVGA 480.
I just used the included Zalman paste, which I had doubts about, but it works very well. I did re-do the paste on the AMP card with the same Zalman paste, but upon removing the heatsink on it, I saw that the factory did a very good job with the application, unlike the EVGA 480 which had the typical troweled-on chewing gum application.

It's also surprising that your results with the IC Diamond and MX4 pastes weren't better at load, those are high-end quality tim's.

As Draygonn first mentioned, I wonder if the vertical position of the cards in the Raven has any bearing on that, although AMW1011's post indicates similar results to mine.

As far as tightening, I basically just hand-tightened the screws, but very firmly, without shredding my fingers!
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Looking forward to tomorrow's report, may your results be better!
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post #8 of 20
Are you sure your not putting a little too much paste? The paste should be very thin and even. Too much paste can cause higher temps.
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The spread was nice and even (this was the MX-4 mount), and the was very little excess paste so I think the right amount was used. I just remounted it with some GC-Extreme and tightened the screws down as far as they would go with a pair of pliers, and temps dropped about 6*C lower than the stock cooler with Heaven. Fro the pics of the spread it doesn't look like there are any obvious gaps in the IHS, and I checked to make sure the Zalman's copper plate was flat before I installed it (it wasn't perfect, but very close). Going to give it another day for the paste to set in, and try again.
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Wow I'm a bit surprised as I looked at that before grabbing an AXP which I just threw on today and got around a 20c drop in temps.
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