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When will people learn ENG SAMPLE is not final product and is there to be tested. Especially on a new architecture was probably just being tested to make sure it even worked and had no issues and to find issues that would be fixed.




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Also, as stated on another thread and i also read it somewhere, that with earlier revisions all the cores weren't clocking up properly, which if true would also explain lower results. Which a stepping revision could fix.

@bella thanks for your posting your 2.8ghz cinebench, it shows that it is possible that both SB and Bulldozer would be close when it comes to performance, which i believe AMD is aiming for.

Also, what stepping and revision are the current 2600k's?
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No problem, though its funny how people can look at an i5-2500k running right with an eight core bulldozer chip clock for clock in multi-threading two different ways.
    
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It's nice to see how accurate CPU-Z is on ES chips
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So AMD sent out samples that failed to even make it through a Windows install?

This just gets better and better.
LOL! Thats why they are called engineering samples mate.
It s like saying that a specific software (game ,OS ,antivirus ,etc) is crap when it s in alpha stage or pre-alpha.
At this moment they should be in some kind of advanced beta/RC stage with the B2.
   
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lol mate SB ES D1 stepping were doing 5GHz on air.

Seems like you've found a crutch and are trying to exploit it.
    
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it is impossible for a new architecture to go backwards
it's basically phenom II with added instructions, die shrink, and that module crap
Your entirely wrong. Bulldozer has been redesigned while sharing some K10 features, the die was drunk but the cores actually share the resources within the chip and are true x6 and x8 cores. Intels architecture is not true 8 cores and do not share the resources. Bulldozer will be more efficient due to the OS can now designate the assignment to 1 core instead of multiple cores. This architecture is more ground breaking than you think. It is easy to make a blanket statement without understanding how a CPU works.
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Yeah it's easy to hold it up on a pedestal when you don't know either.


If its a true 8 core chip why is it sharing resources?

And Intel chips with HT share resources, they share entire cores.
    
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Did they ever release the D1 steppings for retail? I'm just curious as to if they didn't what was the reason?
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lol mate SB ES D1 stepping were doing 5GHz on air.

Seems like you've found a crutch and are trying to exploit it.
D1 stepping ?!
   
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