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Intel released D1 (ES) first, then later D2 (ES), D2 became the retail stepping.
    
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Intel released D1 (ES) first, then later D2 (ES), D2 became the retail stepping.
So where are the benchmarks with the B0 stepping for the SB ?!
Have a link ?!
   
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Your entirely wrong. Bulldozer has been redesigned while sharing some K10 features, the die was drunk but the cores actually share the resources within the chip and are true x6 and x8 cores. Intels architecture is not true 8 cores and do not share the resources. Bulldozer will be more efficient due to the OS can now designate to 1 core instead of multiple cores. This architecture is more ground breaking than you think. It is easy to make a blanket statement without understanding how a CPU works.

Now that explains these results!

Just kidding, I share some of your points, BD is very interesting because it's completely new. Must have been very interesting and challenging for AMD's engineers.
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Yeah it's easy to hold it up on a pedestal when you don't know either.


If its a true 8 core chip why is it sharing resources?

And Intel chips with HT share resources, they share entire cores.
Ummm your SB is sharing L3 cache does that make it a single core cpu?

How about you quit trolling these threads some time today? You've been at it for 10 hours straight.
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Did they ever release the D1 steppings for retail? I'm just curious as to if they didn't what was the reason?
I have no idea why D2 made retail, maybe it had something to do on the chip level. However D1 (afaik) was better for overclocking than D2. D2 requires internal PPL overvoltage, D1 didn't.
    
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Yeah it's easy to hold it up on a pedestal when you don't know either.


If its a true 8 core chip why is it sharing resources?

And Intel chips with HT share resources, they share entire cores.
It's not a true 8 core chip. It's very similar to intel's HT.
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Yeah it's easy to hold it up on a pedestal when you don't know either.


If its a true 8 core chip why is it sharing resources?

And Intel chips with HT share resources, they share entire cores.
You do not want to debate this with me. I suggest you need to actually look at the architecture and read about it. It is shared through the little cores whispering to each other.
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Ummm your SB is sharing L3 cache does that make it a single core cpu?

How about you quit trolling these threads some time today? You've been at it for 10 hours straight.
Did I say bulldozer was a single core cpu? All I said is that its not 8 full cores. The same as HT isn't 8 full cores on a i7. Its already been noted that through the design the performance of each core is lowed so that more cores could be added to the die space.

Maybe I should take a break, it seems no new information is coming out anyways and all we're hearing now is why its requiring 8 cores to match 4 without HT.
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