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Look here.

3.3Ghz 64 bit:



3.4GHz (stock) /w faster ram 32 bit:



The stock i7-2600k gets around 6.5 in Cinebench 64 bit. This guy is getting nearly 6 underclock in 32 bit.
    
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Seems like he wants BD to be slower than SB?
AMD's action of disabling L2&L3 cache as well as the turbo being broken,and capping the clock speed is most likely on purpose so actual benchmarks are not leaked before release.
The B0 and B1 steppings are for testing only,and do not correlate with the improved revision AMD is working. AMD said no benchmarks before release date.
Why go showing off real pre-release benchmarks when your competitior can easily roll out their next gen tech early?
Llano will hit them first,then BD will come as a surprise and hit them again.
MG

I know that is what I trying to explain and show to him. He doesnt like reality. You can lead the horse to water, but getting him to drink is another story.

Who knows if BD will be better than SB? From the flawed benchmarks you can not tell. It doesnt mean BD will be better, it just means we need to wait.
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Balla;

Actually the 950 and the 1090 are fairly even see attachments

950 HT enabled @ 4G hits 6.86
1090 @ 3.86 hits 6.80

The 1090 is faster at the same speed for this benchmark

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its B0 .
When the BD arrives on the market only then we will see normal benchmarks , not from defect Eng sample that means nothing .
Engineering samples mean everything. It sets the baseline for the initial design. And obviously, their initial design is flawed.

Hopefully they can get it straightened out and keep their promises.
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I can already tell the eight core chip is faster at stock than the i5-2500k is at stock (le multithreading).

You can request someone do something, but people actually backing up statements is another thing entirely.

Still waiting for your stock 1090t 32 bit results though, thanks.
    
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Balla;

Actually the 950 and the 1090 are fairly even see attachments

950 HT enabled @ 4G hits 6.86
1090 @ 3.86 hits 6.80

The 1090 is faster at the same speed for this benchmark
The difference is, like with current gen products and the new AMD chip coming out - is that the 950 can disable HT and retain ~85% of its performance, whereas disabling 2- or 4 cores in this case now results in a much larger performance loss. Up to we can now presume will be 50% with the new bulldozer x8 chip.

I'm gonna bow out here, I'll wait for the next round of leaks to assess the situation again. My only interest is in the x4 chip anyways since its the only one that will be priced near my i5-2500k. And as a gamer the only core amount that matters to me currently is four (4). We'll see if Bulldozer has the same per core performance as Intel then and I can always sell and switch over at that time. If that is true then the x8 bulldozer chip should score around what... 11 at 3.4GHz, or closer to actually 14 maybe 15 at stock.

We'll see what happens though!
Edited by BallaTheFeared - 6/11/11 at 6:54pm
    
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These may not be fake, they may just be using chips that don't perform properly or have bugs. There was a delay in launch, just enough time to spin a new revision, so my guess is they had some kinks to work out.
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The difference is, like with current gen products and the new AMD chip coming out - is that the 950 can disable HT and retain ~85% of its performance, whereas disabling 2- or 4 cores in this case now results in a much larger performance loss. Up to we can now presume will be 50% with the new bulldozer x8 chip.
I am sorry but what does disabling hyper threading have to do with disabling physical cores? The logical cores that show up when HT is enabled are in no way analogous to physical cores.

Unless you are pointing out that per core performance is weaker, then sure.
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Whats to be sorry about? My point was as i7-2600k offers good multithreading performance as well as gaming performance, whereas the bulldozer chip will lose 50% or more of its total performance when it is reduced to using 4 cores or less.

But if its true the FX 4000 series chip will be priced right around $200 then I'd expect the per core performance of bulldozer to be pretty close to SB, not sure of what clocks they'll need to achieve that though which is another unanswered question. However if its per clock per core then the fx 8xxx is going to scream and its current performance is about 60% below the actual performance.

Seems like an awful huge performance issue to ignore and send it out as a sample.
    
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Lets not forget, according to Semi-Accurate the server processors release date has been switched with desktops. So maybe we will get to see the server bulldozers in July and can just make a math problem out of the gigahertz to see how the desktops will perform.
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In its current state it is faster than SB, at least the i5-2500k. I haven't seen any i7-2600k stock results in 32 bit however I would assume they would be pretty even there.


All I'm saying is that the bulldozer chip is underclock from what the factory clocks will be. And its meant to compete against stock SB chips, not overclocked chips.


I'm not going to throw my hands in the air and say L2 and L3 are disabled because it gives readings for read and copy, just not write. It could be as simple as the program not having the right information to read it back. Its as simple as that. Just because AIDA isn't giving a result on write doesn't mean its disabled.
Do you know what writeback is and what it does?
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