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I'll get to the point right away. I want to buy a WC loop to use with my yet-to-be-built case. And since I've never bought WC parts before I'd like to get some second opinions and would like you to check my shopping cart.

I'm not trying to spend a fortune so budget is an important thing too.

The things that are missing are distilled + a silver kill coil but those I'll get locally. Also there are no fans since I already have those. 1900rpm and 70cfm iirc.



Link for the cart

Now I know that nickel EK blocks have had some issues and that they should not be used with distilled + a silver kill coil, or that's at least what EK says. But I assume that the block I have selected is fine to use with distilled + silver? no nickel parts apparently. If it's not fine then I'll go with another block since I do not wish to run anything else than distilled + silver in my loop.

One more thing: I have no intention to add my GTX 590 to the loop so please do not suggest a bigger rad just because it would be more future proof. That is not the idea here. If it's a performance issue then I'll consider it.

So yeah I guess that's about it. Opinions? halp?

Thanks in advance
Edited by Alatar - 6/9/11 at 9:46am
 
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Looks good... but shop around radiators and I would get a heatkiller 3.0 LT instead of the EK if I was you
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Also bitspower fittings have a great reputation so consider those. And I'm pretty sure that you have to buy the pump seperately with that res.
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EKs statement is a complete lie and the nickle plating had nothing to do with the silver kill coil but actually poor plating on their part. Everything looks pretty solid to me. The only suggestion would be to check out the XSPC Rasa CPU Block. I know here in the states it's 60% of the price of the EK but has 99% of it's performance.
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I wouldn't get that pump.

It's really really weak.

I mean you don't have anything in the loop that will be particularly restrictive but even so I would get at least the xspc dual bay pump, I have serious doubts that that pump would manage 1GPM flow in a loop.

I'm going to have a little look at the specs again cos it's been a while since I looked at it, but I was considering it before and decided against it...


Edit:

Delivery head 1.2m
Flowrate 200l/h

As I said, it is so poor.


if you do look at upgrading to the 750 pump though, you might consider getting a rasa kit with a 240 rad.

The rasa block is on par with the EK block tbh (within 1oC from the reviews I have seen)
The rad is top notch
you can use killcoils with it
You get all the parts you need...

Only change would really be swapping out for compressions/different hose if you wanted.
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Also bitspower fittings have a great reputation so consider those. And I'm pretty sure that you have to buy the pump seperately with that res.
Bitspower ones were out of stock iirc. I would probably buy those even if they're a bit pricier.

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Originally Posted by VW_TDI_02 View Post
EKs statement is a complete lie and the nickle plating had nothing to do with the silver kill coil but actually poor plating on their part. Everything looks pretty solid to me. The only suggestion would be to check out the XSPC Rasa CPU Block. I know here in the states it's 60% of the price of the EK but has 99% of it's performance.
I chose the EK block over some other ones mainly for the aesthetic values. That list would probably had a Heatkiller 3 on it but I think it looks hideous. just imo.
 
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for fitting, either bitspower or Enzotech for me, albeit they're bit pricy
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Originally Posted by Crabid View Post

if you do look at upgrading to the 750 pump though, you might consider getting a rasa kit with a 240 rad.

The rasa block is on par with the EK block tbh (within 1oC from the reviews I have seen)
The rad is top notch
you can use killcoils with it
You get all the parts you need...

Only change would really be swapping out for compressions/different hose if you wanted.
the rasa kit with a thicker 240 rad would cost about the same as my current plan with this. On top of that I'd have to change the tubing and buy some fittings (hey, looks matter ) so I guess I could just change the reservoir.

It's just that I was designing my custom tech bench with only 2 5.25' drive bays. I guess I could revise some of those plans.

E: how big of a problem would the worse pump be? performance wise? I'm not really worried about longevity, since I'm going to be doing a completely new build before the end of the year anyways.
 
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the rasa kit with a thicker 240 rad would cost about the same as my current plan with this. On top of that I'd have to change the tubing and buy some fittings (hey, looks matter ) so I guess I could just change the reservoir.

It's just that I was designing my custom tech bench with only 2 5.25' drive bays. I guess I could revise some of those plans.

E: how big of a problem would the worse pump be? performance wise? I'm not really worried about longevity, since I'm going to be doing a completely new build before the end of the year anyways.
I couldn't say exactly. I've never seen somebody use it, but I would consider it a fairly big risk.

The trouble with that pump is, the flow and pressure are so low, you will probably end up with a lot of laminar flow in your blocks and rad, which will kill heat transfer rates.

Generally you want to be aiming for an end flow of above 1 gallon per minute or 270l/h. That pump at peak only puts through 200l/h and it has a very low pressure meaning the flow will suffer terribly in your loop. I would estimate 100l/h; a long way from ideal.


Comparatively, the 750 has 750l/h of flow and over twice the head pressure tell a lie 1.8m head pressure (could have sworn it was 2.8m).

If that isn't ideal for you, you could still consider something like this:

http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/...-pid-8332.html

More head pressure and a over double the max flow. That also wouldn't cause any issues with your drive bays, but you would need to find a home for it somewhere else in the case...


Above that there are many different pumps but they are more around the £60-100 mark and the only thing worthwhile inbetween is the xspc 750 pump.
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yeah I think I'll just go with the 750 res/pump. I can change my plans and give the case an extra drive bay no problem.

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