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more sata ports
more usb2 and usb3 ports
well layed out boards, by this i mean the designers take into account how hard/easy it is with varying lengths of cables to plug into the board, ive seen a few boards where plugging in the 8pin from a bottom mount with anything other than long cables would just be a pain
dedicated chipset cooling, my rig is loud, i dont care if its louder i dont like seeing anything in my computer at a high temp
quality phases 8+2 dosent mean anything unless its good quality
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Originally Posted by MSIalex View Post
Hi guys,

Please help me out by posting a comment about what feature(s) you find lacking from the current crop of AMD 990FX boards on the market.

I don't want to hear complaints about this or that on the existing board (i.e. MSI uses this color instead of that, Gigabyte doesn't have UEFI, etc). Rather, I want to hear about what features you think is missing/lacking from the high end boards.

I'm trying to compile a list of items that users, power users, find valuable.

Your feedback is greatly appreciated!

Alex/MSI
More phases, so when we overclock, our pride and joy doesn't catch fire like the other motherboards.
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Obviously you did not read the first post clearly, nor do you actually know anything about the boards we've put out.

The 990FXA-GD80 has 8+2 power phases.
Old 8+2 phases motherboards still went kaboom
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I would like to see more space for oversized CPU coolers. Very difficult to fit them between the ram/NB heatsinks in most cases.

As others have said, better layouts taking into consideration cable management.

I like the inclusion of the Bigfoot Killer NIC cards, I think that was a smart move to include them.

I think dismissing the color of the boards/aesthetic appeal may be a bad move - maybe that's not your focus for this post, but if that's your company's general approach it's a bad approach. The modding community likes to see new color schemes every now and then.

Asus has some really neat looking boards, and I know a lot of people like the black/blue that MSI offers. I'd really like to see a constant theme across all of the products so we can match MSI boards with MSI Graphics Cards - kind of like the Frozr matching the current black/blue theme. That's important to some of us.
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Hi, I will give you my spin on high end motherboards so bear with me. I consider myself a guest here as I review AMD motherboards for my home forum but I like to participate here as OCN has a very good reputation in the community.

First and foremost, many chose the wrong motherboards for the right reasons. Of course higher end mobo offer potentially better performance for a few reasons.

1- better power phase
2- more 16x pcie slots
3- more 6G SATA ports
4- better cooling to mofset and NB with better passive heatsinks
5- Led indicators/on-off switches
6- better bios controls

And perhaps more bells and whistles.

Most people select the best board and for arguments sake, do not need 4 x 16X slots.Graphic cards in xfire or dual SLI do not need 16X. The performance is essentially the same in 8x as 16x as today cards will not use the entire 16x bandwidth. Same with better power phase, more 6G SATA ports ect....

When choosing a motherboard, one needs to determine obviously what hardware. they plan on choosing and also adding on in the future.Obviously the $ goes much higher with the additional features and if not needed, the savings can be applied to other hardware such as SSD, better cooling. better GPU, additional GPU, ect.......


Here is where it gets interesting. One of my rigs is an I7 930 on a $200 Gigabyte X58-UD3R. It is overclickeded to 4.5GHz Rock solid stable. IMO, the Rampage III, the Gigabyte X58- UD7 and others may overclock better or may not. The Additional $200-$300 may yield a few hundred MHz more but the additional $ will not yield much better overclocking or performance unless I WAS LOOKING TO PUT IT UNDER DRY ICE OR LN2.

OK, let's look at AMD motherboards. The Crosshair V is a great board. I reviewd and overclickeded a Phenom II 980 to 4.5 GHz rock solid stable and suicide to 4.7GHz. I also pulled the exact overclock on the Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5 and Asrock 890FX Extreme5. So really, where is the advantage? There is none but the later 2 boards sure cost a lot less.

The Crosshair V has a hybrid power phase and digital vrm with many more voltage adjustments in the bios and perhaps without a time constraint to finish the review, I may have pulled a few hundred MHz more


The Crosshair V lists for $235 without the Thunderbolt nic and sound card edition while the ASRock and Gigabyte 890 FX will probably list for $179. There is not much displacement within the price for AMD platforms compared to Intel.

Hope this helps.......
Edited by PureOC Jim - 6/9/11 at 12:56pm
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Hi, I will give you my spin on high end motherboards so bear with me. I consider myself a guest here as I review AMD motherboards for my home forum but I like to participate here as OCN has a very good reputation in the community.

First and foremost, many chose the wrong motherboards for the right reasons. Of course higher end mobo offer potentially better performance for a few reasons.

1- better power phase
2- more 16x pcie slots
3- more 6G SATA ports
4- better cooling to mofset and NB with better passive heatsinks
5- Led indicators/on-off switches
6- better bios controls

And perhaps more bells and whistles.

Most people select the best board and for arguments sake, do not need 4 x 16X slots.Graphic cards in xfire or dual SLI do not need 16X. The performance is essentially the same in 8x as 16x as today cards will not use the entire 16x bandwidth. Same with better power phase, more 6G SATA ports ect....

When choosing a motherboard, one needs to determine obviously what hardware. they plan on choosing and also adding on in the future.Obviously the $ goes much higher with the additional features and if not needed, the savings can be applied to other hardware such as SSD, better cooling. better GPU, additional GPU, ect.......


Here is where it gets interesting. One of my rigs is an I7 930 on a $200 Gigabyte X58-UD3R. It is overclickeded to 4.5GHz Rock solid stable. IMO, the Rampage III, the Gigabyte X58- UD7 and others may overclock better or may not. The Additional $200-$300 may yield a few hundred MHz more but the additional $ will not yield much better overclocking or performance unless I WAS LOOKING TO PUT IT UNDER DRY ICE OR LN2.

OK, let's look at AMD motherboards. The Crosshair V is a great board. I reviewd and overclickeded a Phenom II 980 to 4.5 GHz rock solid stable and suicide to 4.7GHz. I also pulled the exact overclock on the Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5 and Asrock 890FX Extreme5. So really, where is the advantage? There is none but the later 2 boards sure cost a lot less.

The Crosshair V has a hybrid power phase and digital vrm with many more voltage adjustments in the bios and perhaps without a time constraint to finish the review, I may have pulled a few hundred MHz more


The Crosshair V lists for $235 without the Thunderbolt nic and sound card edition while the ASRock and Gigabyte 890 FX will probably list for $179. There is not much displacement within the price for AMD platforms compared to Intel.

Hope this helps.......
xD xD Edit lol
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xD xD Edit lol
It's the OCN spellcheck. Get a life...... kidding of course
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Alex, please this opinion/request is not just for 990fx boards, but... we dont want lucid chips on your highest end boards...
The marshal was a huge amazing board but had lucid instead of nf200. We want, at least i do, real high end board with ability to do 3-way or even 4way sli/xfire, just like the competition. Not lucid, nf200s . Call them lightning boards...
Sorry if i was abit off topic, which i was.
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Guys, I do appreciate that you may have constructive criticism of current stuff.

I'm not asking that.

Current stuff (shortcomings, especially) is all known to me and I am pushing for changes. What I'm more interesting is features that enthusiasts would like to see on a board (but not yet implemented by any board maker).

That's why I asked and started this thread. However, I do appreciate the comments about past flaws and it's all included in my summary.
    
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It is not as easy to come up with a list of things to change. So much hardware is designed around the board
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