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sooo.....

Can some one explain to a noobie like myself what just happened here. Is this bulldoser chip not that good.

Was my decision to buy 2500K, which will arrive tomorrow, a good one?
You shouldn't regret anything, nobody will know how BD will perform until its release.

Whether it's amazing or mediocre, your 2500k is the best price/performance CPU on the market, let alone one of the most powerful at the moment. Period.

One I highly recommend for current builds, and it OC's like a beast.
 
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post #152 of 285
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Cinebench doesn't define a chip. As we all know BD works with modules, not "real" cores, although a module is equal to about 1.8 cores. Cinebench might have a hard time dealing with these cores, and that could explain the low scores, if this is even real. We saw this with hyper threads, where the hyper thread would only perform at about 20% of the real core on Cinebench, while maintaining the power of 70% of a core in other applications.

So I am not saying that this is real, but am just making the point that if there is a small likely hood that this is real, then it could just be BD's modules interfering with Cine's bad programming. More benchmarks like PCMark might help to clear this up. Although BD did do pretty poorly in the SuperPi.

Please don't mistake me for an AMD fanboy, I am actually an Intel fanboy. I hate to see all this disappointment directed at BD though, especially when we already know Cine has problems.
These "modules" have nothing to with the Cinebench score. It has 8 real cores that are seen as just that, 8 cores, by Cinebench, and 8 threads are run simultaneously. A module is one core simply sharing resources with another core, that does not mean they are working "as one".
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These "modules" have nothing to with the Cinebench score. It has 8 real cores that are seen as just that, 8 cores, by Cinebench, and 8 threads are run simultaneously. A module is one core simply sharing resources with another core, that does not mean they are working "as one".
So you are saying that BD sucks then?
    
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So you are saying that BD sucks then?
There's most likely some problem/bug with the ES chips?
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There's most likely some problem/bug with the ES chips?
Maybe, I am not trying to say that BD will be terrible, quite the opposite. I expect it to be pretty good after all this work AMD is putting into it. So I am just blaming Cine, not BD.
    
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Maybe, I am not trying to say that BD will be terrible, quite the opposite. I expect it to be pretty good after all this work AMD is putting into it. So I am just blaming Cine, not BD.
Except you should be blaming the B0 stepping, not Cine and not the production BD.
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B0 this B0 that, I can smell bD's b0 and it smells like bacon.
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If all of you actually care to look through all of the information available on that site you will see that testing is on very early ES chips and that they are not working correctly as even installing Windows is an affair, not to mention that the behavior after is unpredictable. This will not be representative of the final chip. I'm sticking by what I said earlier too...those that had Gulftowns and Westmeres can attest that Windows did not always detect the full capability of the chip correctly. Heck, even some Nehalems had their cores cut by Windows in some occasions. If this happens with finalized retail chips imagine what can happen with ES chips that are not production ready anyway.

Edit: Am I like the only reasonable Intel person here? I guess there are a few of us only...overall why don't we just sit and wait until BD is out. I also want some sweet NF200 equipped boards for running more than two full X16 PCI-E devices and we'll be game


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Really, guys, what else is there more to say for the moment ?
 
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Say what you will,
blame what you want.

I really do think this will be the clock speed of a BD chip. HOWEVER, I think it will be pretty good at overclocking.
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Say what you will,
blame what you want.

I really do think this will be the clock speed of a BD chip. HOWEVER, I think it will be pretty good at overclocking.
It's not the (2.8ghz) clock speed that is the problem, it's the performance clock for clock, or the fact that every core on the chip isn't reaching the listed clock speed.
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