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What? No it's not.
It is and we'll have another new architecture in 2013.

http://www.intel.com/technology/tick-tock/index.htm
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my 2600k won't be anywhere near obsolete in the next few years
Yes it will.The 2700k will be out soon and it will be the same price or 10 bucks more.
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Yes it will.The 2700k will be out soon and it will be the same price or 10 bucks more.
just because a newer revision or something slightly better comes out does not mean the other is obsolete.

2600k has been out for a little while now and it will still beat BD, I'm willing to bet based on benches seen. I keep seeing really sad benches for the BD ES. I know its a ES but, still come on.
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2600k has been out for a little while now and it will still beat BD, I'm willing to bet based on benches seen. I keep seeing really sad benches for the BD ES. I know its a ES but, still come on.
The bulldozer ES benches are indeed extremely pathetic and my attitude was the same, if this is a real BD then theres no way they can double performance with a stepping. But if the CPU was severely crippled by a bug then there's a chance it's retail performance will greatly improve once the bug is fixed.
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just because a newer revision or something slightly better comes out does not mean the other is obsolete.

2600k has been out for a little while now and it will still beat BD, I'm willing to bet based on benches seen. I keep seeing really sad benches for the BD ES. I know its a ES but, still come on.
Again, you don't know if the 2600K will beat BD... It's also very possible the ES chips have bugs that are limiting the performance, so making absurd assumptions at this point in time will get you no where.

Honestly, sometimes I question the common sense of some people on here. The BD benchmarks currently floating about are showing similar/worser performance compared to their Thuban predecessors... that alone should tell you there are inherent problems with the ES chips.
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Again, you don't know if the 2600K will beat BD... It's also very possible the ES chips have bugs that are limiting the performance, so making absurd assumptions at this point in time will get you no where.

Honestly, sometimes I question the common sense of some people on here. The BD benchmarks currently floating about are showing similar/worser performance compared to their Thuban predecessors... that alone should tell you there are inherent problems with the ES chips.
Or perhaps they're not bugged but intentionally set this way to prevent any sort of premature benchmarking by those that do not respect NDA. My understanding is that early stepping ES chips are sent to motherboard manufacturers with the sole intention of being able to ensure compatibility with the platform and architecture. If this is the case, it's quite clever.

I want the chips to hurry up and be released so these constant bicker-fests end. Moderators shouldn't have to bust out the broom so often imo.
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it could be an intel mole inside AMD, payed to find the worst BD ES chip he/she could, and post a crappy result
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Conspiracies aside, no one expected AMD to catch up to Intel in core for core performance. What was expected, and I think is still plausible at this point is that AMD will push out 8-core CPUs with performance per core near Nehalem at prices sub-$300. That would be very competitive and seems like their best option.

All of this said, I'm a gamer, I have no use for eight cores, never have. Hence why I didn't jump on the waiting for bulldozer band wagon and went with Sandy Bridge months ago.
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Conspiracies aside, no one expected AMD to catch up to Intel in core for core performance.
Actually, a lot of people did and still do.
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Actually, a lot of people did and still do.
I think those people due for hard kick in the face by reality.

I am expecting Nehalam + maybe 2%-3% for the IPC. Anything more, especially for 8 cores @ ~$320, will be shocking.
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