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Originally Posted by HAF_wit View Post
Or perhaps they're not bugged but intentionally set this way to prevent any sort of premature benchmarking by those that do not respect NDA. My understanding is that early stepping ES chips are sent to motherboard manufacturers with the sole intention of being able to ensure compatibility with the platform and architecture. If this is the case, it's quite clever.
Hmm, this bit of speculation really seems plausible to me. But, at this point, is that even a sound tactic? Does AMD really have much to gain by being coy about the true performance if the performance is actually good? All they might be doing at this point is making people who would've waited for Bulldozer simply move on to Sandy Bridge to avoid the delay and remove the doubt. With Sandy Bridge they know they are getting a good chip, and they can get it now.

Then again, can we expect sensible corporate decisions WITHOUT A CEO?!
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I think those people due for hard kick in the face by reality.

I am expecting Nehalam + maybe 2%-3% for the IPC. Anything more, especially for 8 cores @ ~$320, will be shocking.
For $320 it has to beat 1st. gen i7,or else the i7 2xxx K is still a better deal,making BD a fail that won't even move off of shelves,let alone "Bulldoze a Sandy Bridge".
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post #203 of 285
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Or perhaps they're not bugged but intentionally set this way to prevent any sort of premature benchmarking by those that do not respect NDA. My understanding is that early stepping ES chips are sent to motherboard manufacturers with the sole intention of being able to ensure compatibility with the platform and architecture. If this is the case, it's quite clever.
I highly doubt they would do that, and give false impressions of what their processors are capable of.

With Llano's performance, they are flaunting it, if BD was dominating they'd be flaunting it too.

Bottom line is the B0 stepping chips are buggy, and are being fixed.
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post #204 of 285
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Originally Posted by BizzareRide View Post
Some bits of it look legit, some others don't.

If this is true, then Bulldozer will be a colossal failure and can't even match first-gen i7s:

Did noone else notice that thats a SINGLE CORE processor?
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Bottom line is the B0 stepping chips are buggy, and are being fixed.
Yep. That's what I've been saying.
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For $320 it has to beat 1st. gen i7,or else the i7 2xxx K is still a better deal,making BD a fail that won't even move off of shelves,let alone "Bulldoze a Sandy Bridge".
No it does not. $320 for a 8 core CPU with IPC slightly under Nehalem >>>>>>>>>>>> i7 2600K.
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No it does not. $320 for a 8 core CPU with IPC slightly under Nehalem >>>>>>>>>>>> i7 2600K.
The X6 Thubans already perform slightly worse than the 1st gen i7 in most tasks,if the 8 core still performs worse than Nehalem 1st gen i7,then Bulldozer isn't much of an improvement over K10, other than a quicker IMC with higher IPC.
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In what way does that make the same exact chip obsolete? You realize they have unlocked multi's meaning that a 2500k and 2700k are essentially identical, right?
2600k has more cache along with hyperthreading, otherwise it's identical to a 2500k. Most likely the 2700k would be the same as the 2600k but with a higher binned clock speed.
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The X6 Thubans already perform slightly worse than the 1st gen i7 in most tasks,if the 8 core still performs worse than Nehalem 1st gen i7,then Bulldozer isn't much of an improvement over K10, other than a quicker IMC with higher IPC.
Nehalem is far ahead of Phenom II's IPC. The only reason the X6 is close because of two extra cores. If Bulldozer had IPC that is equal or very close to Nehalem, it would be much better (well... not in games) considering it has four extra cores. It's still a big improvement IMO.
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The X6 Thubans already perform slightly worse than the 1st gen i7 in most tasks,if the 8 core still performs worse than Nehalem 1st gen i7,then Bulldozer isn't much of an improvement over K10, other than a quicker IMC with higher IPC.
Only in very highly multi-threaded scenarios, if not then Thuban is slower than Intel's Core 2 Quads.
 
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