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I'd say this is spot on. AMD themselves have said that the "8 core" chips were going to be positioned against the 4 core i7's. They've also said performance isn't up to where they'd like it (yet). And as this is probably the B0 and not the latest B2 (they only just announced that, doubt they've already got sites benching B2 ES chips) I'd say this is a fairly accurate.

It pretty much confirms what I've been saying all year. Bulldozer's modular design is just a more literal iteration of SMT. I want to see some more detailed benches on final silicon before I call AMD down and out. Specifically would like to see a more detailed thread vs thread comparison of old and new.

Even if AMD can't beat Intel this at least puts them on solid ground to keep competing in the future, and they've still got strong products in the mobile/HTPC/mid range. Intel's sudden emphasis on ramping up Atom, CULV and ultrabooks should be indicative of this.
    
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what does that mean from a gamers point of view

FX8 vs i7 is similar in things like encoding, compressing....what programs even use 8 cores

what does this mean for games were most still only use 2 cores
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I predict bulldozer requires specific drivers for it to function properly with windows thread scheduling. But the performance, should be noticeably faster day to day usage. I also predict amazing integer performance.
    
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Originally Posted by Mit Namso;13957057 
what does that mean from a gamers point of view

FX8 vs i7 is similar in things like encoding, compressing....what programs even use 8 cores

what does this mean for games were most still only use 2 cores

Most games are moving to 4 cores now.

And as to what uses 8 cores? Well, encoding video and audio, winrar, folding@home, compiling applications.
The biggest benefit would be multi-tasking I think, while a quad core is fine to do other stuff while a game is running (Usually using 2 or 3 cores) if games move to 4 cores (Which they are trending towards that) then 6 cores will see a decent improvement.
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iMagi;13957257 
I predict bulldozer requires specific drivers for it to function properly with windows thread scheduling. But the performance, should be noticeably faster day to day usage. I also predict amazing integer performance.

Agreed smile.gif
I think AMD will be quite clever in their employment of Bulldozer's attributes.
To be honest, most programs I use make poor use of the power available in my current rig. How many times have you noticed a slow down , brought up your system resources, and noted that only 30% of your cpu is being used and maybe 50% of your ram? Frustrating isn't it? I think Bulldozer (even IF it lacks brute power) will bring better utilization to address this annoyance . This will result in great improvements in day to day usage.
Oh , and if it does indeed have the brute power to "plow" through applications like no other, I will gladly watch it use half of its resources t be twice as fast as what I am running now cheers.gif
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chewy;13951879 
We dont need to know how it will perform to say it will not be faster than intels 980 990x. For a start amd are not even aiming to out perform these enthusiast processors

amd sub £200 cpu vs intel £1000 cpu.

Take an educated guess

I suppose that's why the 2600k beats the 990x in many cases, even though it is significantly cheaper. wink.gif
I suppose that's why there's little difference between the i7 920 and the i7 965, even though the latter cost several times more than the former. rolleyes.gif

It is entirely unreasonable to use the pricing of a flagship extreme edition processor in this kind of argument. (Regardless of whose processors you are speculating about)
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Good thing to be able to read Chinese biggrin.gif
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Yeah.... Right let's believe the Chinese people that posted pictures of an AMD Athlon 64 x2 and photoshopped some benchmarks. The only part I like is that it's not even as good as the slowest i7.
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HELL MY pENTIUM dUAL cORE e5200 DOES sUPER pI 1m 10 SECONDS FASTER THAN THAT ****.
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/hopeful
Maybe it will be able to match intel in quad-enabled games? Because the backgroud apps can be offloaded to the other cores?
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