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But these aren't the first leaks with almost identical results. I can show you more than a few here and on XS. I've followed BD almost religiously for the past month. It's almost certainly the under performing B0/1? stepping IMO.
Yeah, but how much improvement can a new stepping bring? 10%? 20% (and that's really pushing it)?

It won't make miracles.
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I doubt this is fake, those videos are pretty hard to fake, the guy is pretty active, and will be running more benchmarks.

This is clearly the original ES sample, and to me it validates the rumors that Motherboard vendors weren't happy with the results they got. Therefore, a new stepping is being worked on, and the real reason for BD's delay and lack of benchmarks from AMD.

I just wonder how they're gonna get a new stepping done, and bring it to retail within 90 days.

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Yeah, but how much improvement can a new stepping bring? 10%? 20% (and that's really pushing it)?

It won't make miracles.
Exactly.
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post #43 of 285
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Yeah, but how much improvement can a new stepping bring? 10%? 20% (and that's really pushing it)?

It won't make miracles.
This is not B0, simple as that. If that was B0, do you think AMD would wait until now to say "hey, the perfs suck, they suck so bad they're not even better than Deneb, let's delay BD!".

But you are right, a stepping is not magic, it's the same architecture slightly revised.
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What I heard is totally 10 eng sample get out of the factory. The seller sold 3 pieces already, still get 7 pieces on the online-shop.. 350 USD..
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Yeah, but how much improvement can a new stepping bring? 10%? 20% (and that's really pushing it)?

It won't make miracles.
Well, a 15% increase clock for clock and another 1-1.5ghz would make quite a difference.

Just speculating of course. Nothing else for us to do until it actually debuts.
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If these pictures are true (which they appear to be)..

Better luck next time AMD.
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What I heard is totally 10 eng sample get out of the factory. The seller sold 3 pieces already, still get 7 pieces on the online-shop.. 350 USD..
I personally don't care. These could very well be chips deemed defective, dumped, and then recovered for this type of shady sale.

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If these pictures are true (which they appear to be)..

Better luck next time AMD.
Real, maybe, but in no way representative of BD's final specs. AMD will not release something similar to Deneb after 5 years of dev! It's just obvious!
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It's chiphell, so I honestly think these are accurate. They have rarely been wrong in the past. But keep in mind guys that these are engineering samples, and not by any means the final product. Performance could jump a bit by higher clock speeds and slight tweaks to increase the ipc.
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It's chiphell, so I honestly think these are accurate. They have rarely been wrong in the past. But keep in mind guys that these are engineering samples, and not by any means the final product. Performance could jump a bit by higher clock speeds and slight tweaks to increase the ipc.
I agree, these Chinese websites are pretty much nearly spot-on. Inpai was dead on about SB performance, for instance. and I doubt they would test this BD chip with only 4 cores enabled or something, like people have said here.

A new revision won't do any miracles, at best it will solve a few bugs and bring a tiny IPC increase.

Let's hope it can at least compete with the Nehalem generation, otherwise, AMD is head-deep in poo-poo.
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I agree, these Chinese websites are pretty much nearly spot-on. Inpai was dead on about SB performance, for instance. and I doubt they would test this BD chip with only 4 cores enabled or something, like people have said here.

Let's hope it can at least compete with the Nehalem generation, otherwise, AMD is head-deep in poo-poo.
I think that it will, or be very close. And heck, for the way that they are pricing it, it should have been expected to perform this way. I don't know why people thought that amd would price this amazing processor at only $320. If it was that amazing, they would have priced it higher. Amd is not targeting the $1000 cpu market here, they are targeting the high end mainstream market.
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