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If this is a true, working 100% as it should be, ES then it's very simple: BD is fail and AMD should give up the entire thing.
But it's obviously not, or we wouldn't be going to B2 for production. They don't just introduce new steppings for funsies.

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So let me get this right... the Pi test @ 2.8ghz was faster than the Pi test @ 3.2ghz? :|
Yeah, it's clearly bugged.
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So, what up with the 1 core 1 thread?
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So, what up with the 1 core 1 thread?
CPUID bug.
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The cpu-z says 1core 1thread?
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So all it has going for itself is a better integrated GPU? Most laptops have discreet as well.


Oh well, a nice netbook CPU I suppose.
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If all of you actually care to look through all of the information available on that site you will see that testing is on very early ES chips and that they are not working correctly as even installing Windows is an affair, not to mention that the behavior after is unpredictable. This will not be representative of the final chip. I'm sticking by what I said earlier too...those that had Gulftowns and Westmeres can attest that Windows did not always detect the full capability of the chip correctly. Heck, even some Nehalems had their cores cut by Windows in some occasions. If this happens with finalized retail chips imagine what can happen with ES chips that are not production ready anyway.

Edit: Am I like the only reasonable Intel person here? I guess there are a few of us only...overall why don't we just sit and wait until BD is out. I also want some sweet NF200 equipped boards for running more than two full X16 PCI-E devices and we'll be game
Edited by dejanh - 6/9/11 at 3:46pm
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If this is a true, working 100% as it should be, ES then it's very simple: BD is fail and AMD should give up the entire thing.
LOL !
Amazing way of thinking.You were born to be an engineer

It s an ES not meant for the public.It s not intended for performance comparitions ,it s meant for compatibility tests with the mobos most probable.This in case the site posted stuff is not faked.
   
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But it's obviously not, or we wouldn't be going to B2 for production. They don't just introduce new steppings for funsies.



Yeah, it's clearly bugged.
When I say 100% working as it should, I mean bug free. I didn't mention performances.
But the result is the same, this stuff is buggy as hell, can't even handle Windows right and is worse than Phenom II.

But STILL, it's B0. This thing should not be B0, judging by it's perfs it should be a very very early chip made for AMD only, for testing purpose. That's why it's disturbing.
AMD should not send something like that to mobo facturers, that's for sure. I'm pretty sure mobo facturers got a bug free version... Still underperforming it seems but able to handle windows at least =_=.

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LOL !
Amazing way of thinking.You were born to be an engineer

It s an ES not meant for the public.It s not intended for performance comparitions ,it s meant for compatibility tests with the mobos most probable.This in case the site posted stuff is not faked.
Dude, this was not even a serious answer. It was more like "come on, it is just too bad to be real". Some of you take this stuff too seriously!
(BTW Testing mobo compatibility with a bug-riddled chip is not the best way to do it...)
Edited by MacA - 6/9/11 at 3:47pm
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I call BS. These results are suggesting it will be slower than the Thuban with less cores, if that was the case it'd never even get to the concept stages. That or it's one hell of a broken engineering sample/bad revision chip.
    
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Looks pretty buggy to me, the guy had trouble installing Windows after all.

2010rig: You seem to be assuming this is indicative of final performance.. it's silly to think AMD would make BD and it end up ~20% slower than Phenom II (guesstimate).


Edit: Here, http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=270041&page=9 start at post 202 and go for about 4-5 pages.
Nah, I don't think this is Bulldozer's final performance, since it's clear that a new stepping is being worked on to fix what ever bugs these ES samples have.

After they create a new stepping, don't they still have to manufacture the chips, and bring them to retail, and can they do this in 90 days?

When I referenced the tock - tick process for Intel... Had AMD released BD on time in 2009, it would've been 45nm BD, which they could've further improved to 32nm. Just like Intel did with their tocks and ticks between.

BD has a couple generations to make up for, since it's now coming in to compete against SB.



If the above doesn't explain it, can you quote where I'm assuming that this is indicative of final performance?
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