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post #291 of 708
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Originally Posted by KusH View Post
Nor are they out there committing "acts of war."

But the uneducated public will see these hacks and be like OMG!!! TEH HAXXORZ KILL THEM ALL!!!! I NEEDZ TO BE SAFES ON MY INTERNETS FROM TEH HAXXORZ PLZ GOVMENT SAVES ME FROM TEH EVIL HAXXORZ!

Just like the patriot act after 9/11. Everyone was sooo scared of "terrorism" that they gave away their liberties for a false sense of security.

What's even more interesting is you're more likely to be struck by lightning TWICE, before getting killed by a terrorist. But yet that doesn't stop the endless/worthless/expensive/no goals wars from continuing and expanding.

There will be an internet false flag attack that will trigger a 9/11 type event for the internet and then give legislators the sway they need to pass these draconian internet regulation bills.
When did I say they were committing acts of war?

The uneducated public will laugh and not see the grave consequences of actions like these. What I don't understand is that you were able to see those consequences, but yet still support those actions. As you said, this gives legislators leverage to introduce internet regulation. So why in the heck shouldn't they be shut down?

You're arguing both sides of the coin here.
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Don't even go there. The US Military has more honor than you ever will. I spit at you fool.
uMad? Virtual spit. Now I've seen it all.
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When did I say they were committing acts of war?

The uneducated public will laugh and not see the grave consequences of actions like these. What I don't understand is that you were able to see those consequences, but yet still support those actions. As you said, this gives legislators leverage to introduce internet regulation. So why in the heck shouldn't they be shut down?

You're arguing both sides of the coin here.
For the reasons I described in my post which you might have skipped over.
http://www.overclock.net/technology-...l#post13864181

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uMad? Virtual spit. Now I've seen it all.
Say it don't spray it.
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Bethesda personal information is now available via torrent sites...get your free email addresses and passwords
Internet security fails...
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post #295 of 708
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For the reasons I described in my post which you might have skipped over.
http://www.overclock.net/technology-...l#post13864181



Say it don't spray it.
Oh, your convoluted argument that sometimes laws must be broken to change incorrect laws? You still haven't proven, or even provided a somewhat compelling argument that what these guys are doing is "right", or beneficial. You are blind as a bat if you believe they're doing this for "good".
post #296 of 708
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Oh, your convoluted argument that sometimes laws must be broken to change incorrect laws? You still haven't proven, or even provided a somewhat compelling argument that what these guys are doing is "right", or beneficial. You are blind as a bat if you believe they're doing this for "good".
There is some good in this and some bad, why do you think it's either white or black when it's just a shade of grey.

It's good that they are exposing these weak security systems before they actually do fall into the wrong hands.

Now the way they go about doing this is not the best practice, but as Pat said they give them the opportunity to fix their systems, and if they were warned before I do believe Pat was right again and they would go on to be ignored.

Please familiar yourself with a Grey Hat Hacker.

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A grey hat, in the hacking community, refers to a skilled hacker whose activities fall somewhere between white and black hat hackers on a variety of spectra. It may relate to whether they sometimes arguably act illegally, though in good will, or to how they disclose vulnerabilities. They usually do not hack for personal gain or have malicious intentions, but may be prepared to technically commit crimes during the course of their technological exploits in order to achieve better security.[1] Whereas white hat hackers will tend to advise companies on security exploits quietly, grey hat hackers are prone to "advise the hacker community as well as the vendors and then watch the fallout"
MY big concern is that congress will use this to their advantage to sway those who are ignorant of the subject at hand. When majority of those in congress do not know how to internet nor do they understand how it works. Hence the reason why they are trying to make EMBEDDING A YOUTUBE VIDEO COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT. Which is obviously asinine.
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post #297 of 708
Looks like LulzSec is got its sights on Escapist Magazine now.

Wow and now they are asking people to call and give them targets.....Activision anyone?
Edited by Tweex - 6/14/11 at 9:43am
post #298 of 708
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It's good that they are exposing these weak security systems before they actually do fall into the wrong hands.
That's absolute BS, they are "the wrong hands themselves". They're releasing private information via torrents for anyone in the world to download.

And when was anyone warned about an incoming attack? These attacks were, in many cases (according to their words), completed quite a while ago. They're just releasing the info now, seems to me like no one was warned...

Your entire argument is based on falsities and lies.

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MY big concern is that congress will use this to their advantage to sway those who are ignorant of the subject at hand. When majority of those in congress do not know how to internet nor do they understand how it works. Hence the reason why they are trying to make EMBEDDING A YOUTUBE VIDEO COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT. Which is obviously asinine.
Once again, if you fear these things will come as a result of their actions, why the heck would you want those actions to continue?!?
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That's absolute BS, they are "the wrong hands themselves". They're releasing private information via torrents for anyone in the world to download.

And when was anyone warned about an incoming attack? These attacks were, in many cases (according to their words), completed quite a while ago. They're just releasing the info now, seems to me like no one was warned...

Your entire argument is based on falsities and lies.



Once again, if you fear these things will come as a result of their actions, why the heck would you want those actions to continue?!?
How do you know that no one was warned? I doubt you do.

What points of my argument is either a fallacy or lie?

It's not their actions I fear, it's the reactions of those who don't understand that have power to make laws that I'm in fear of.

I look at it this way, I support them trying to expose security flaws so it can be resolved, however I don't support the leaking of private user data. I don't put the blame on LulzSec though for exposing it because if those targets had good security it wouldn't have happened. Companies need to take responsibility for their users information and guard it with everything they possibly can.

It's like if a bank robber robbed a bank, and got away with it. It's the banks fault for their lax security. Now yes it's bad that they were robbed but I highly doubt they will be robbed the same way again due to the fact that, that exploit has been exposed and they can use that situation to prevent future robberies of the same fashion.
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Let's see no leadership, no goals and no real rules. Good luck fighting this group... it's as if the government cloned it self and went underground to fight it self.
I hate to point out the obvious but you can catch as many people related to this as you want and someone will simply just pick up where they left off.
The future of this world is open, honest and free, but first we need to do away with lying, corrupt and selfish controllers.
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