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This seems like a pointless assertion though. It's like saying that a piece of string that is of infinite length cannot be measured. Well... yea... but it doesn't exist so why bother mentioning it? What do you define as "properly secured" anyway?
I didn't say it was impossible, he did. I truly doubt it is impossible to close up all dangerous vulnerabilities in a website. If a hacker can discover the vulnerability why can't the security "expert" who's job is to discover these and patch them up?

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You can't ever be 100% properly secured - it is impossible to know all vulnerabilities before they are discovered. Therein lies the fundamental flaw of every statement you make.

And once again, I also agree that hacking can be done in a manner to achieve maximum human security and without causing harm - BUT THIS IS NOT WHAT LULZSEC IS DOING.
Like I said to randomizer, isn't that what the security folks job to discover them? If some hacker can do it in his free time "for the lulz"... maybe those people shouldn't be working in security.

As for lulzsec, it seems we'll just have to agree to disagree, as it boils down to a matter of opinion.
Edited by __Pat__ - 6/14/11 at 10:25pm
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I didn't say it was impossible, he did. I truly doubt it is impossible to close up all dangerous vulnerabilities in a website. If a hacker can discover the vulnerability why can't the security "expert" who's job is to discover these and patch the up?
Yeah just like he's saying it's impossible to measure an infinite string. Come on man, get with the program.

You truly doubt it because you don't know what you're talking about. Ask any network engineer, security expert, or a hacker themselves and they will say exactly the same thing - it is impossible.

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As for lulzsec, it seems we'll just have to agree to disagree, as it boils down to a matter of opinion.
It is not a matter of opinion, it is FACT that they have caused harm.
Edited by Iceman23 - 6/14/11 at 10:32pm
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The hacker's ability is what will make a site impossible to hack. There's always a way. It just depends on if someone can find it.
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The hacker's ability is what will make a site impossible to hack. There's always a way. It just depends on if someone can find it.
If it can be built, it can be torn down. No one is ever number one. There is always someone better than you at everything. You make an amazing security feature and a day later someone figured out something you forgot.
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If it can be built, it can be torn down. No one is ever number one. There is always someone better than you at everything. You make an amazing security feature and a day later someone figured out something you forgot.
Agreed
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If it can be built, it can be torn down. No one is ever number one. There is always someone better than you at everything. You make an amazing security feature and a day later someone figured out something you forgot.
It is quite sad that you are not bothered with the fact that hackers doing things for the lolz are better than the people who make a living protecting us.

I give up, keep giving these people excuses not to properly protect your information. Just don't go crying about it when it happens.
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It is quite sad that you are not bothered with the fact that hackers doing things for the lolz are better than the people who make a living protecting us.
Doesn't matter if it bothers him or not. This is a news thread. Not a feelings thread.

We're entitled to have opinions on the topic at hand, but don't piss yourself if he doesn't lose sleep over it.
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Doesn't matter if it bothers him or not. This is a news thread. Not a feelings thread.

We're entitled to have opinions on the topic at hand, but don't piss yourself if he doesn't lose sleep over it.
Meh, I'm just wasting time at work
If anything I'm pissing myself laughing
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I personally am looking forward to the /b/ vs lulzsec war.
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I personally am looking forward to the /b/ vs lulzsec war.
Who says they aren't one and the same?!
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