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Originally Posted by Sohryu76 View Post
so you are totally off the grid.
no job... no internet service provider... no education in the past 20 years...
no bank accounts... no insurance...

is that what you are saying?
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Originally Posted by gill View Post
^ this.

Heaps of people say 'I don't mind since I don't keep anything major online' - are you sure? Your bank stores your account info and everything to do with your money on 'secure' servers. These servers are no doubt connected to the internet. Sooooooo, sure, people might not use their credit card or bank details on the internet for purchases, but just because you never personally key that info into a website, doesn't mean it isn't stored somewhere. Any computer connected to the internet is reachable.

An example could be teachers at the school that I work for (I'm the IT Admin). They are all hopeless with computers, probably never put any of their info online; they are the type of people that physically go to the bank to check their balance. But we have their information in our payroll system, HR system etc etc. If the school got targeted, a lot of damage could be done - bank details going walk about etc etc.

Just something for people to keep in mind.

With that said, I'm kind of on the fence about LulzSec, on one hand they are raising security awareness, but on the other they leak sensitive data.

Don't keep money in banks, education? What does that matter, it's not like my SS is something you want. I'm a fellon after all. Insurance? I'm 26, in college, and piss poor. ISP, I've stolen internet multiple times and I'm A-OK with that. I don't keep ANYTHING personal that you can't already look up.

I'm not "off the grid", but I don't do any online transactions. Mainly because I like doing everything in person, everything! I like paying in cash, I don't trust myself with checks or credit cards.

It isn't THAT hard to stay relatively "off the grid" without really being off the grid. In fact, being "off the grid" doesn't mean you have personal information stored places. It means you don't use it and you don't have a current "known" living location. I could go off the grid, actually drop off, and not care. Unfortunately I need money for things like food, clothes, women, blah blah blah.

[edit] My bank has $5.75 (min is $5 and required), so I could really care less if that gets used. I only put money in there to do online transactions and I only put in roughly what I need.

[edit2] I lied, I could go off the grid and sell drugs. That wouldn't be hard, I would just have to set things up right and save some money. That's livin off the grid, it doesn't matter if they know who you are. They always know who you are, it only matters if you have information that is current to where you are in life (not just location).
Edited by mushroomboy - 6/9/11 at 5:46pm
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Don't keep money in banks, education? What does that matter, it's not like my SS is something you want. I'm a fellon after all. Insurance? I'm 26, in college, and piss poor. ISP, I've stolen internet multiple times and I'm A-OK with that. I don't keep ANYTHING personal that you can't already look up.

I'm not "off the grid", but I don't do any online transactions. Mainly because I like doing everything in person, everything! I like paying in cash, I don't trust myself with checks or credit cards.

It isn't THAT hard to stay relatively "off the grid" without really being off the grid. In fact, being "off the grid" doesn't mean you have personal information stored places. It means you don't use it and you don't have a current "known" living location. I could go off the grid, actually drop off, and not care. Unfortunately I need money for things like food, clothes, women, blah blah blah.

[edit] My bank has $5.75 (min is $5 and required), so I could really care less if that gets used. I only put money in there to do online transactions and I only put in roughly what I need.

[edit2] I lied, I could go off the grid and sell drugs. That wouldn't be hard, I would just have to set things up right and save some money. That's livin off the grid, it doesn't matter if they know who you are. They always know who you are, it only matters if you have information that is current to where you are in life (not just location).
Nevertheless, your identity could be purloined and used without your knowing, which could come back to haunt you later. Your identity is worth a lot more (and can be far more damaging to you), than the $5.75.
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The difference is that a bank has an interest in keeping your data secure, whereas the school doesn't. If sensitive customer records were stolen from a bank's systems... well, just use your imagination. The damage done to the customers could be pretty bad, but the damage done to peoples' trust in the banking system as a whole would be enormous.
schools definitely do... a school... has all the information someone needs to steal your identity and put your butt in debt for thousands of dollars. get a young kid's identity at 18-21... and you have yourself almost 5 grand a pop.

get 100 student's information... do the math.

Schools... colleges and universities that is... have to keep your information as secure as anywhere else.


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alot of meaningless text
so you are not off the grid... you have information about yourself and identity online... I assume you have a state ID of some sort. A criminal record... your SSN is out there as well. So... still enough to steal your identity and put you into a worse position than you are currently.
    
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Nevertheless, your identity could be purloined and used without your knowing, which could come back to haunt you later. Your identity is worth a lot more (and can be far more damaging to you), than the $5.75.
Ummmm like? They would have to use it to do online stuff, it would be way too risky to use it for an ID. Way too risky. I have crap for credit, it's below 600 and that is the default credit score for everyone. They could open a bank account and possibly ruin my credit more, though that really wouldn't scare me.

I don't think you understand how bad it is to be a felon with low credit and no money, it's worthless. The average person might have a problem but you really don't want to use a felons ID, it'll start more red flags than going to heaven with a hundred virgins. Oh, those aren't red flags!

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Originally Posted by Sohryu76 View Post
so you are not off the grid... you have information about yourself and identity online... I assume you have a state ID of some sort. A criminal record... your SSN is out there as well. So... still enough to steal your identity and put you into a worse position than you are currently.
Off the grid doesn't mean ANYTHING about having information about yourself stored places. Jesus, that's ridiculously dumb. With that train of thought a person who was on the grid can't go off, ever. But wait, you can!

Seriously, learn some terms. As well as learn how crappy it is to steal a person's id that has a record, especially a fellon. Why? Because every time that ID is ran my picture will come up, unless you don't use it in public. Oh, yeah that's right. If you use it for credit good luck, I can't get a loan without somebody signing that has good credit. That means you'll be in a bank with surveillance. You don't use fake IDs to do that, it's a huge no-no in that category. You could make an online "identity", that is still going to be messy. You want a clean ID, something that doesn't throw red flags (no picture or prints).

[edit] I know most people don't know all this, but doing some of the things I've done (yeah yeah, no good) I've learned some things. It's really troublesome to use a "flagged" ID. You can't sell an identity that has a fellony, or any major record. Even if it's expunged, the black market won't take it. It's so dumb, I can't even describe how bad. You can't be pulled over or have that ID ran, ever. So it leaves you with little to do, you could enlist me in fake school stuff. I guess give me more debt, though I'll say that isn't hard to clear up.
Edited by mushroomboy - 6/9/11 at 6:14pm
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Ummmm like? They would have to use it to do online stuff, it would be way too risky to use it for an ID. Way too risky. I have crap for credit, it's below 600 and that is the default credit score for everyone. They could open a bank account and possibly ruin my credit more, though that really wouldn't scare me.

I don't think you understand how bad it is to be a felon with low credit and no money, it's worthless. The average person might have a problem but you really don't want to use a felons ID, it'll start more red flags than going to heaven with a hundred virgins. Oh, those aren't red flags!
ok we get it... you're identity is worthless... you think... and you don't care if it gets worse.
at least you know where you sit
Edited by Sohryu76 - 6/9/11 at 6:09pm
    
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There, just summed up OCN.
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There, just summed up OCN.
I don't understand the point of your post. Really we aren't allowed to have opinions on anything? or are you just not into reading them? if it is the latter... you should stay off any message boards anywhere.

If its the prior... get bent.
    
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ok we get it... you're identity is worthless... you think... and you don't care if it gets worse.
at least you know where you sit
lol I do, that's why I'm going to school. You have no idea what it's like to try and get a job of any kind. Even worse is that I have 2 o-dubs, so I can't drive either. It really really sucks, though I kinda did steal and break into crap so meh. I did what I did and paid for it, lesson learned.

You also don't want IDs that are disabled or have any "unique" identifiers. That's what I mean by flags, they make the identity worthless. Unless you know how to live without running into any law enforcement. If you are doing that then you probably aren't going to ruin their identity. That is what a lot of identity theft goes for, it's sold to illegals or people who want to live "off the grid" so that they can't be found by anyone.
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I don't understand the point of your post. Really we aren't allowed to have opinions on anything? or are you just not into reading them? if it is the latter... you should stay off any message boards anywhere.

If its the prior... get bent.

My intent is open to your perception, take a look at what you assumed I was doing first.

1) You jumped to the conclusion that I was saying no one is allowed to have opinions.

2) You ask me if I am not reading into them..ironic since you're looking to far into my opinions.

3) You tell me if it is a latter that I should stay off all boards.

I was showing you, you look to far into things... I figured if I did that by direct statements you would go into defense mode, turns out you do that either way.

Stop seeking drama is all I am saying... Mushroom was just expressing his opinion.

Making a big thing out of something so miniscule.
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My intent is open to your perception, take a look at what you assumed I was doing first.

1) You jumped to the conclusion that I was saying no one is allowed to have opinions.

2) You ask me if I am not reading into them..ironic since you're looking to far into my opinions.

3) You tell me if it is a latter that I should stay off all boards.

I was showing you, you look to far into things... I figured if I did that by direct statements you would go into defense mode, turns out you do that either way.

Stop seeking drama is all I am saying... Mushroom was just expressing his opinion.

Making a big thing out of something so miniscule.
No one is seeking drama... expressing an opinion is what these things are about... there is just a matter of being able to disagree with said opinion is also what these forums are for.

and if you think identity theft is not a big deal, you must be in the same boat as Mushroom... or just don't know any better yet.
    
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