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"Star"? Sounds a little hyped but congrats to the authorities for catching him
Hacking Interpol at such a young age....yeh id call him a star
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Hackers get jobs, If we follow the same logic, it's like cops offering jobs to bank robbers..
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No its alittle different - Hackers generally dont use violence to get to their goals. It would be different if he say kidnap an employee of a company and got the codes that way.

They are not even in the same ballpark at all.
Yeah actually they do. If your good enough without using violence then you probably will get a job. You don't hear of bank robbers who get caught that don't do the whole run and grab tactic. Think about it, you really NEVER hear of them getting caught. They do, they just disappear and work for somebody high up.
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Yeah actually they do. If your good enough without using violence then you probably will get a job. You don't hear of bank robbers who get caught that don't do the whole run and grab tactic. Think about it, you really NEVER hear of them getting caught. They do, they just disappear and work for somebody high up.
No, they have nothing in common. Robbing a bank usually has an obvious glaring weakness after you've been broken into, "Oh, we didn't have concrete floors and he dug a tunnel into the room". With your logic the bank robber has extreme intelligence and should be hired into the police force to help make banks more secure, he could just be good at digging tunnels...

To be a hacker, you need thousands of different skills, and a vast knowledge of current exploits to be successful. When you break into a private network, you can get in and out without anybody knowing, multiple times. Even if the people KNOW you're breaking in, they probably won't stop you if you're good.

It's not the same. Just isn't.
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No, they have nothing in common. Robbing a bank usually has an obvious glaring weakness after you've been broken into, "Oh, we didn't have concrete floors and he dug a tunnel into the room". With your logic the bank robber has extreme intelligence and should be hired into the police force to help make banks more secure, he could just be good at digging tunnels...

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It's not the same. Just isn't.
Thank you for expressing my point exactly how i ment
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im gonna say that he will end up working for the government in exchange for no jail time
Unlikely. They always give them a good taste of jail, and then offer to let them work for them for free for the rest of the sentence, and be essentially out of jail for that time. When the sentence is up, they offer them a paid position.
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No, they have nothing in common. Robbing a bank usually has an obvious glaring weakness after you've been broken into, "Oh, we didn't have concrete floors and he dug a tunnel into the room". With your logic the bank robber has extreme intelligence and should be hired into the police force to help make banks more secure, he could just be good at digging tunnels...

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Thank you for expressing my point exactly how i ment
Are you both freaking serious? Did you forget motion sensors? Or the fact that a good security system for a bank has it's own hidden power source? So you can't just turn it off, and if you do it probably has a fail safe switch that alarms the base in case of power loss (or the base requires a constant connection of data). Oh dear lord, you know nothing about home/company security. Don't forget motion alarm windows, where too much force triggers the main and then it goes to the base. Oh lordy, we have nubs in these peck of the woods.

Don't forget the guards, or cameras which should be on a separate system which also should have a fail safe for power outs.

Also, the only real way to get into a safe these days is with the proper equipment, your going to need oxy-acetylene or something like a thermite rod. If you don't have something like that you won't get through any of the metal, period. Unless you know how to unlock a banks security door to the vault, that's going to need some nice programming.

Yes, these days robbing a bank is actually really hard unless it's open. Seriously, it's not that easy. The more pristine the bank the harder it gets, that's just an average bank.


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Unlikely. They always give them a good taste of jail, and then offer to let them work for them for free for the rest of the sentence, and be essentially out of jail for that time. When the sentence is up, they offer them a paid position.
Yes they do, they generally get a differed/expunged sentence after though.

[edit]

And if I can think of this type of security for a bank I'm pretty sure the banks can too. I'm willing to bet they can think of some really good things, beyond just digging a freakin whole. You watch too much Hollywood.
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Pretty bad when Interpol can get breached by a 15 year old.
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Are you both freaking serious? Did you forget motion sensors? Or the fact that a good security system for a bank has it's own hidden power source? So you can't just turn it off, and if you do it probably has a fail safe switch that alarms the base in case of power loss (or the base requires a constant connection of data). Oh dear lord, you know nothing about home/company security. Don't forget motion alarm windows, where too much force triggers the main and then it goes to the base. Oh lordy, we have nubs in these peck of the woods.

Don't forget the guards, or cameras which should be on a separate system which also should have a fail safe for power outs.

Also, the only real way to get into a safe these days is with the proper equipment, your going to need oxy-acetylene or something like a thermite rod. If you don't have something like that you won't get through any of the metal, period. Unless you know how to unlock a banks security door to the vault, that's going to need some nice programming.

Yes, these days robbing a bank is actually really hard unless it's open. Seriously, it's not that easy. The more pristine the bank the harder it gets, that's just an average bank.




Yes they do, they generally get a differed/expunged sentence after though.

[edit]

And if I can think of this type of security for a bank I'm pretty sure the banks can too. I'm willing to bet they can think of some really good things, beyond just digging a freakin whole. You watch too much Hollywood.
I hate doing this, but this time I find it completely acceptable.

LOL WUT?!
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With skills like that, he could easily get millions in a matter of a few weeks, buy a new identity, and live the rest of his live in the bahamas
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