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post #41 of 92
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Originally Posted by 5entinel View Post
Why is it that every Bulldozer thread I go to, always resorts to personal attacks,Off-topic posts and silly remarks? I do not want to come back here and do a mass deletion. Try to keep things civil guys please...
The community is immature.
post #42 of 92
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What part of "engineering sample", don't you people understand? Go on eBay and look at ES CPUs. They are terrible compared to the retail versions.
Not all ES chips are terrible by any stretch of the imagination. I have seen ES chips that come with retail clocks and unlocked multipliers (my brother had an ES C2D he bought off someone) and they perform exactly the same as retail equivalents.

So no, not all ES chips are terrible.

But back on topic, if this is indeed true, then this is really bad news. This late in the game and AMD are only chalking up those numbers. If anything it looks like Intel are further infront now than they have ever been (if this proves to be true).

I mean, Intel have had 32nm chips out for over 12 months, they have the new LGA2011 chipset on the way shortly, Ivy Bridge 22nm chips early-mid next year with the 3D transistor technology (whether you like it or not, this sounds really promising). With these numbers, even being an ES chip, it looks like AMD have slipped further behind.

Lets say that BD performs on par with the current SB lineup. SB was released in what? January? BD is releasing in August (I believe) so that would make AMD 7 months late to the party. Then only another 2-3 months after BD is released, Intel release their LGA2011 extreme hex-core processors and completely obliterate AMD once again. Sure, some will argue that the price of AMD will likely be cheaper. This is most likely true since thats usually been the case. But it still doesn't cover up the fact that ultimately, AMD is seriously behind the 8-ball. Which is a sad thing since I would love to see my original CPU manufacturer (original CPU was 3800+) get back to being competitive as its good for everyone
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post #43 of 92
New kid syndrome. Some only know how to hate when their hardware is no longer the newest and fastest. Good luck to BD. I am sure they will be haters when Ivy comes out. Never ending
post #44 of 92
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Even if Bulldozer beats Sandy Bridge (in game preformance), how will it compare to Ivy bridge which comes out next year? Not very well I am guessing.

To be honest I think Bulldozer will perform around about the same or less than a high end Sandy Bridge.

2011 = bulldozer gen 1
2012 = bulldozer refresh
2013 = bulldozer gen 2


ivy will be pitted against amd's refreshed bulldozer called komodo .... dont worry amd will have something against ivy ... if bd performs on par with sandy i bet a refresh will perform either very close to ivy or on par ....
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2011 = bulldozer gen 1
2012 = bulldozer refresh
2013 = bulldozer gen 2


ivy will be pitted against amd's refreshed bulldozer called komodo .... dont worry amd will have something against ivy ... if bd performs on par with sandy i bet a refresh will perform either very close to ivy or on par ....
wishful thinking? And how do you know they will be on par?
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post #46 of 92
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wishful thinking? And how do you know they will be on par?

did you read my post at all ???


i said if bd is on par with sandy a refresh would be on par or close to ivy in performance ....




common sense .... if the first gen bulldozer performs on par with sandy ... how can a refresh not give a good fight ???
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post #47 of 92
Ok, both architectures are different, and even the concept of cores are a bit different in the way it is implemented.

So, it is better to compared by thread count or by Module count, as in, BD quad-module vs SB quad-core.
     
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post #48 of 92
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Not all ES chips are terrible by any stretch of the imagination.
It is the other way around. The ES chips are the most desirable.
It is good to see some BD numbers
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post #49 of 92
Did they delay it to slow it down?
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post #50 of 92
IIRC, usually, ES chips are cherry picked.

That's a B0 stepping, and it's suppose to retail @ B2 stepping.

But still, 8 threads vs 4 threads...Something weird.
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