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I see alot of 3rd party companies sueing and not any primary owners doing the sueing is that legal to sue a person if you don't infact own said material???

Ok so they track down the trackers IP or even maybe the household what then do they have a judge grant them a warrent and storm the household and gather the probable evidence. I feel like there is some other kind of law breaking going on or constitutional rights being broken here.

How also do you know this isn't even a scare tactic to detour people from illegally downloading. Were any name release this is all here say whatever.

Pirates take risk of being caught, but you can be sued for being a good person these days it seems.

Remember Nobodies safe live in fear.

To answer a few questions:

1) A few bits of info

(They don't want people to stop pirating, if people stop, they won't be needed, but the company's behind them want pirates to not exist because they see the amount of torrents downloaded as a lost profit, which it isn't.)

One: Scare others to stop pirating by taking this many down.

Two: It is impossible to sue all of these people, IMPOSSIBLE. They completely rely on scaring the victim into paying out of court, so they only need to send a letter, and threaten them of a suit. Then out of fear they pay.

Three: Let's say you downloaded a beiber cd, well then if you get caught you will pay out the wazoo to these people, and beiber will not get a cent, nor will his label, it only goes to more legal fees of getting others.

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I see alot of 3rd party companies sueing and not any primary owners doing the sueing is that legal to sue a person if you don't infact own said material???
I'm not sure, it's assumed to be legal, although I believe downloading copyrighted content is not the same as copying copyrighted content, so I don't know where they say it's illegal to download copyrighted content. Would be very happy to see the law on that.

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Ok so they track down the trackers IP or even maybe the household what then do they have a judge grant them a warrent and storm the household and gather the probable evidence. I feel like there is some other kind of law breaking going on or constitutional rights being broken here.
No, they only need to see that you downloaded that. For instance if there was a torrent called Simpsons Season 1 Episode 1, and you downloaded it..

They can sue you for downloading it, because they got your IP, and know when you downloaded it, what you downloaded.. etc etc.

Even if it's not the video at all, and what you downloaded wasn't copyrighted, they can sue you.

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How also do you know this isn't even a scare tactic to detour people from illegally downloading. Were any name release this is all here say whatever.
It is...

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Pirates take risk of being caught, but you can be sued for being a good person these days it seems.

Remember Nobodies safe live in fear.
It's funny really, either let the company's run the government, and the country, or go communism/socialism and let the government run it all.



Always loved that image, one has the gun to the head of a poor man, and one has the gun to the head of a middle class man.

You choose.
post #182 of 194
IP-Address Is Not a Person, BitTorrent Case Judge Says Hence cases will fail.

They are just scare mongering...
Edited by alancsalt - 6/11/11 at 5:41pm
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post #183 of 194
They'll be forced to split up and sue each person individually. They of course won't be able to afford 25,000 individual cases.

Then it'll be thrown out since an IP address does not equal a person and they have no further evidence other than only an IP number.
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Never saw the movie but judging from the grossed they earn (according to cnn), 20mil is kinda weak
Movie was decent, I thought it was entertaining at least.

Box office gross isn't a great indicator of a movie's success, esp when a movie is nominated and wins Academy Awards- DVD/BR sales on winners are usually pretty good.
 
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All im saying is that at the present - not the past

Sure Linux is a fantastic option, for those willing enough to learn it. Alot of people would rather stick to what they know. They know windows, they know windows is expensive - hence D/L it.

Microsoft Windows will always beable to be cracked and they will let it that way so they have market share. That simple and thats my whole point its popular because it can be pirated.

I dont think your seeing my point
In terms of interface, modern Linux distributions and Windows are identical. There's no real ground breaking feature Windows has or anything else that simplifies the experience. If anything it's more difficult if you pirate it since you have to use hacks to circumvent the activation. The reason Windows is most popular, meaning everyone WANTS Windows is because it's compatible with everything.

You can also say OEMs install it on all systems, therefore everyone uses it, but the reason the OEMs pick Windows is because of it's compatibility. I'm sure if it were a viable option they'd pick open source software in a heart beat since there's no licensing fee.
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Is their "evidence" even submittable in court? "We tracked you, we have your IP" <-- I could write down any IP address and claim something against it. What proof would they actually have, beyond having your IP address written down?
    
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The Hurt Locker was average I thought. It tried to be so realistic it came of almost being pretentious. Good war movies can show the atmosphere of the battlefield without being boring at times. Examples include Saving Private Ryan and Black Hawk Down.
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Proof that crappy movie = people will download them "illegally" cuz is not worth it
and good movie = people willing to pay for it
Um dude The Hurt Locker is a good movie. Now the expendables; that movie rivaled dragon wars in the how much can one movie suck category.
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Ah now its clear its not legal but basically a scam. They get the person scared of going to court settle for couple of $1000 of dollars send movie productions companies a slice of the pie and rinse and repeat.

Genius!!!
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They'll be forced to split up and sue each person individually. They of course won't be able to afford 25,000 individual cases.

Then it'll be thrown out since an IP address does not equal a person and they have no further evidence other than only an IP number.
Thats how its sposed to work, but when it comes down to it. It all depends on the judge. If he says the sky is red, than damit the sky is red.

Thats just how it works in this country, no one follows the rule of law anymore.

The constitution made our system of government, but now it has just gotten mixed into a whole bunch of BS and crap, and we have something mixed with a free democratic government and a dictatorship all in one.

Remember the constitution established the court system we still use , the states, the president, the military, etc....

But the most important thing that it pointed out was our individual rights.

Now isnt it funny that people look at the constitution like some piece of paper, little do the know the whole system our country operates off of it. its just our rights have been removed from the picture, but we still use the system it established....

But our rights are irrelevant to the profit making machines, the constitution was put in place to stabilize the system and our country. It doesn't mean its supposed to be used to catch every criminal or law breaker. Its their to maintain our countries stability and with stability means yes, some criminals are gonna get away with things, thats just how it is. You dont get rid of peoples rights to catch the criminals , otherwise that destroys the balance of our system and we have instability. Because if you have true freedom, than some criminals are just gonna have loopholes, but if you get rid of loopholes, you get rid of the freedom too. Aka more instability.
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