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would you still get in trouble for downloading it, if you also already own the movie
Yeah...

If I owned one copy of the movie does that let me go shoplift another? though that is theft vrs copyright enfringement...not the same, but works here. If you just ripped the movie for a backup then you currently break no copyrights. If you download the other copy then it doesn't originate from your purchased copy so it like you obtained another copy by "stealing" it.

And the Hurt Locker may have been shot well or something get awards, but I feel that every gulf war vet should be sueing the producers for taking such liberties with the story. EoD? If you thought something was an IED or thought you saw a mine you just blew it up your self. The only time EoD was called in was if there was a whole building wired up to blow and then the whole area would be surounded by other troops to protect them/keep people from entering area. Though I am pretty sure there hasn't ever been a war movie done with even 50% acuracy.

I mean no offense EoD guys...but yeah, you got a pretty decent life. Thoguh you are all nuts I think. I remember a gernade that didn't go off at the gernade range one day. This EoD guy drives up in a camo Chevy pickup, walks into the pit, kicks the un-exploded gernade a couple times, and then picks it up and puts in his pocket. When got back to his truck he just put it up on the dash board and that's when we noticed that there was two others sitting there. From that day on I would pull over and let any EOD vehicle drive past me.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 6/10/11 at 10:05am
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I agree that the fines are outrageous, but knowing that they exist why would any intelligent person illegally download media content knowing that this could happen to them? Is paying $5 to rent the movie on Netflix or $2-$3 on PPV really that bad?

Also if you dislike the laws in this country or the state you live in contact your representative and tell him/her about it. Whining about it on a message board is not going to change anything.
Well, maybe I don't want to pay 5 dollars per movie only to have to drag my computer from my room down the stairs and hook it to my TV everytime I want to watch one. Maybe I don't want to drive 14 kilometers to the nearest rental. Maybe I don't want to spend 20 ******* hard earned euro's for one and a half hours worth of entertainment, having to clutter precious space in my house with plastic crap DVD boxes. Maybe I don't want to wait 3 years to watch it on TV at double length because of all the commercials dragging you out of the experience....

Maybe I want to spend one minute searching for the movie I want, wait a bit while downloading, doing useful stuff in the meantime, then burn it, watch it once and then lend it to friends if they wanna see it too.
It's just the easiest way out there.
Basically, downloading movies is more time efficient, cost efficient, space efficient, not to mention environment friendlier.

And then you wonder why people download movies?
Don't get me wrong, I'd have no problems paying for movies, as long as they can make it just as easy as the aforementioned method, and scale the price to fit.
I regularly go to the cinema, but I just can't justify paying more than that for a (bluray) movie.

PPV would probably be ideal, but I don't have access to that here either. Maybe in a year or so, but until then I'll happily keep downloading whenever I see fit..
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i own a lot of blu-rays but i usually grab a digital copy of it so i can watch on my computer and not worry about scratching my discs. (i didnt have a blu-ray drive on my computer till just recently either)
i don't think you have anything to worry about, if you own movies, you can also legally make a copy of it for "back-up" purposes. Not to mention you can take the disk and use some software to make it a file anyways. as you stated, you didn't have the right drive to read it, but you own the license, so they didn't lose any money off of the download.
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Yeah...

If I owned one copy of the movie does that let me go shoplift another? though that is theft vrs copyright enfringement...not the same, but works here. If you just ripped the movie for a backup then you currently break no copyrights. If you download the other copy then it doesn't originate from your purchased copy so it like you obtained another copy by "stealing" it.
Thats not the point....

You can take the disk and make a digital copy of it, so why wouldn't he be able to download it. digital media is a license system, he bought the movie, therefore, he is allowed to watch it anyway he wants, just that they only give you one format to watch it when you buy it.
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Thats not the point....

You can take the disk and make a digital copy of it, so why wouldn't he be able to download it. digital media is a license system, he bought the movie, therefore, he is allowed to watch it anyway he wants, just that they only give you one format to watch it when you buy it.
But when you download it, that copy has its own licience agreement that you are breaking(though really I think it is only the seeder that is breaking it because if I see a movie laying on the sidewalk outside my house I break no laws if I pick it up, but what I think doesn't count). If you copy yours than there still only remains the one licience agreement that now pertains to both copies as long as they remain in your posession and is the only reason why the companies that make the ripping software haven't been sued out of existence. It is stupid, but that is the way it works. if it got to court and this was used as a defense it would fail really hard

You could record it off of TV, though. Then your licience to watch whatever the TV channel is showing is covering the copy. However, you can't download a TV episode because the licience says "the broadcast cannot be reproduced". I would love to be able to download one of the new episodes of Doctor Who that I missed, but my luck I would get sued by the BBC. (I can't seem to catch it in replay either...I need to get it programed to record on my DVR)
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If someone gets away with getting one movie for free, chances are they are going to grab another, another, etc. I was setting up a friends new computer and transferring all his data over, dude probably had 50+ movies...all torrented and more than half were huge box office, good movies.
and. . .
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I have no sympathy anymore for people who illegally download media content, these lawsuits have been happening for a while now and these people should have thought about that before clicking the download button.

If they really wanted to see The Hurt Locker they should have done it the legal way and gotten it from Netflix, pay-per view, Wal-Mart, or waited to see it for free on TV. Now they will end up paying a lot more money then they would have if they had gotten the movie legally.
and you are part of the sheeple
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In my life I have learned when I get caught speeding, I have to pay the fine. I don't see why breaking any other law should be any different.
     
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If I remember correctly, didn't the main character buy pirated movies from the Afghani kid in the movie Hurt Locker? Isn’t that actually promoting the activity? Just sayin'..
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Just pay the fine to the equivalence of buying the movie at a shop..that is fair. Oh and The Hurt Locker IMHO was rubbish.
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