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You're assuming that Apple, the creator of the iPhone, couldn't possibly of had the idea for Wifi Syncing or buttons to take snapshots? Just because one person puts out an app with features that thousands of people have thought of before doesn't mean that he is all of a sudden the inventor of that idea. Steve has talked about wireless syncing and backup since the 80s although obviously not mentioning the iPhone specifically as one of those devices utilizing it. Any computer geek has had similar ideas floating around their heads since the personal computer came about.
Yea... except that's not even the point. Apple denied the app because having the volume button perform the function of taking a photo "confuses" iPhone users. (As a joke of my hatred of Apple I can say I'm not surprised if it does confuse them LOL) Then they turn around and "update" the iPhone doing exactly that.
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post #32 of 69
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Well, pardon me if I misinterpreted his rant. If what you say is the case, that appears to be a major shortcoming of the Android Market then. The quality apps come from successful, talented developers with some money in their pockets, not "weekend hobbyists." That's not to say hobbyists can't make good apps, but come on, get real - for everyone one good app there's probably 1000 crappy ones floating around the market making a mess of things.

tl;dr Frankly, if what you say is accurate, it explains the shortcoming of quality apps in the Android Marketplace that I've read so much about from fellow users on OCN.
There are tons of good apps on the android market, I prefer most of them over their apple counter parts. It seems lame to me that on apple you even need to pay for a camera app where on android you can download a ROM with an insane amount of customization built into it.
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^^^
I think it shows that you can't compare the two systems when it comes to apps. Android has lots of high quality apps that do the job for free, and are available from various different sites, all of which the user can choose from; while the iPhone is all about spending major cash on something proprietary and with no choice in the matter unless one Jailbreaks and goes homebrew...

Of course, if you are talking money, the system that is canned, proprietary, and everything requires payment will yield more riches than a system that is open and users have the freedom to choose between whatever they want. It's like saying Windows is far more elite than Linux because MS rakes in large cash on Office, while no one makes money on OpenOffice...
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Apple's new policy: if someone has a good idea steal it!
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post #35 of 69
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again wrong. The people who developed apps, are not allowed to change the hardware functions of the iDevices at all. They are simply not allowed. Wether it be Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, Buttons. They are not allowed to modify or add features that don't already exist. Developers can use Bluetooth to connect to other iDevices or to computers, as apple intended, but you can't use Wi-Fi to do the same thing, because Apple doesn't have a feature for it. It's relatively straight forward, all it takes is about a day to read the EULA for the iPhone SDK, as well as the App store EULA.
That is to say that Apple can make money from hypocritically changing a button when I, as a developer, cannot? Reimplementation of a camera or wifi application just shows that the real objection was not "standards" but profit.
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...and are available from various different sites, all of which the user can choose from;
Guess that's a matter of personal preference. I rather like having all my app "purchases" in one centralized location. I don't want to spend the time searching multiple app markets trying to find what I'm looking for. Just not interested in that at all. I will happily pay a couple bucks for a well designed app. I don't mind it at all.

I've had my iPhone for over 18 months now and have downloaded and tried just under 700 apps and a couple hundred on my iPad. I couldn't believe the number when I saw it. Not all were paid for of course, but that's a significant number I think. Point is they're all located in ONE place.

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There are tons of good apps on the android market, I prefer most of them over their apple counter parts. It seems lame to me that on apple you even need to pay for a camera app where on android you can download a ROM with an insane amount of customization built into it.
I didn't say there are no good Android apps in the marketplace, only there are more in the App Store, which I've learned from reading posts from other users here. And my theory seems to validate that statement.

I wish you wouldnt use the whole custom ROM argument, because iDevices can be jailbroken with less effort with the same results. And each is something a vast majority of users are simply not interested, myself included. I've jailbroken all of my iDevices at one point or another and while it's all wizz-bang fun at first, the device never feels "right" afterwards, something more jailbreakers can attest to. To each his own.
Edited by ForumViewer - 6/13/11 at 12:52pm
 
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One reason the iPhone has been so successful is that Apple maintains tight control over its hardware. Bettany told those assembled yesterday that she doesn’t even consider it worthwhile to release an Android app because users on that platform refuse to pay for stuff that iPhone users gladly do. Apple was both her benefactor and her tormentor, until she pulled that feature, and her app was re-admitted to iTunes.
I would love to know how she came to that conclusion about Android users. :|
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post #38 of 69
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I would love to know how she came to that conclusion about Android users. :|
She probably asked a few iPhone users: "Hey would you buy my app on Android?" "No." "Oh... how about on your iPhone?" "Yep."

I wish I could share the conversation I had with a friend of a friend on chat, it was so full of lol. He was acting EXACTLY like the Xtra Normal cartoon. "iPhone has a 5mp camera." "G2x has an 8mp with 1080p video..." "I don't care... I just like the iPhone."
Edited by Stealth Pyros - 6/13/11 at 12:59pm
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I would love to know how she came to that conclusion about Android users. :|
Statistics don't lie.

http://gigaom.com/2011/05/27/android...aker-for-devs/
 
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statistics lie all the time.

When I read "it worthwhile to release an Android app because users on that platform refuse to pay for stuff that iPhone users gladly do" I instantly just thought that android users could do it for free. That doesn't mean they wouldn't pay for it if that was the only way.
    
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