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2500k with an Asus mobo and your golden....
post #12 of 91
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2500k with an Asus mobo and your golden....
No... Wait for Bulldozer, Bulldozer prooves to beat 2500K performance, then your truely golden with a FX CPU. Period.
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Seriously though lol, Bulldozer is out in a few weeks now and there are at least 5 threads made each week in the AMD section asking (Wait for bulldozer or 2500K) ummmm knock knock, we do not know Wait for benchmark reviews people, then decide
Bulldozer was out in a few weeks a few weeks ago. Who actually knows when bulldozer will come out?

Logic says if AMD is attempting to push clocks to 4.2GHz, and pricing their eight core chip near the price of the i7-2600k then the per core performance of bulldozer is much lower than sandy, as it will require 4 more cores, and more MHz to reach a level where its competitive with Sandy.

If AMD had more speed, and better per core performance, than their B0 and B1 stepping chips wouldn't have failed to deliver.
    
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Bulldozer was out in a few weeks a few weeks ago. Who actually knows when bulldozer will come out?

Logic says if AMD is attempting to push clocks to 4.2GHz, and pricing their eight core chip near the price of the i7-2600k then the per core performance of bulldozer is much lower than sandy, as it will require 4 more cores, and more MHz to reach a level where its competitive with Sandy.

If AMD had more speed, and better per core performance, than their B0 and B1 stepping chips wouldn't have failed to deliver.
Very logical, I would just go with the 2500k, or the 2600k if you need the extra threads.
    
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Bulldozer was out in a few weeks a few weeks ago. Who actually knows when bulldozer will come out?

Logic says if AMD is attempting to push clocks to 4.2GHz, and pricing their eight core chip near the price of the i7-2600k then the per core performance of bulldozer is much lower than sandy, as it will require 4 more cores, and more MHz to reach a level where its competitive with Sandy.

If AMD had more speed, and better per core performance, than their B0 and B1 stepping chips wouldn't have failed to deliver.
Well, the cores or speed is not really the problem, the Phenom II could be golden all the way if AMD concentrates more on getting there CPU's IMC on par with Intel's instead of concentrateing on fitting more cores on the die and clocking the hell out of it.

Seriously though, PHII X6 has a default Northbridge of 2000MHz, and MaxxMEM shows a memory score of around 6.4GB/s compared to Intels default of around 20GB/s

Still clocking the Northbridge to 3000MHz is still not good enough, as it only improves the MaxxMEM score to around 10.6GB/s then.

Just imagine the the PHII X6 had the same IMC and memory speed as Intel's 2600K, there would be something to look at then
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If you don't need to upgrade immediately, waiting is always the best option. The i5 2500k /i7 960 may turn out better than BD, then again it may not, but you won't know until it's been benched. If BD weren't being released for another 4 months, then it's a tough decision, but seeing as you have a decent rig and only a few weeks to wait, the logical thing to do would be to wait. As for the price factor, that is up to you, is it worth $40 to wait for the comparison?

Alternative: maybe you could buy the Intel chip at micro center, not open it, and wait for the BD benchmarks to come out, then return it if BD is better!
Edited by OrangeBunnies - 6/11/11 at 7:37am
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If you want/need something now, then get a 2500k now. If you can wait, then wait and see what AMD has to offer. There is no point in basing a decision off pure speculation of a product that could perform either way unless there is actual evidence to suggest otherwise.
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Here is what we know about Bulldozer so far:



Edit: There have been some claims by AMD people that the clock speed is capped, so this may or may not actually be performing at the 4GHz level. There is also a claim that it is TDP locked, and won't go over a certain power draw. I think these are all plausible, and this is just a first look type deal.


However since I'm not into blind bias thought processes, you'd have to explain to me why his PI time dropped 6 seconds with a 800 MHz overclock.


Edited by BallaTheFeared - 6/11/11 at 7:46am
    
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Here is what we know about Bulldozer so far:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8QRKdyBzKQ
Gotta give AMD credit, if that's a legit video, then it looks like AMD has improved there IMC's compared to a PHII IMC
Edited by Atomfix - 6/11/11 at 7:50am
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Unless you know exactly why it was performing like that or how the actual product will perform, that doesn't mean much.
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