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You guys are so off topic right now. Original question: "bulldrozer or intel i7 960?"
Neither. Bulldog is what you want.

Seriously, why not i7 2600 ?
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Just admit it, unless your doing something beyond the normal day to day game playing or internet lady gazing there is no use for most of the newer chips other than the bling effect. both gpu's and Cpus both amd and intel are vastly superior to any normal homebody's gameplaying or general need. There are some circumstances where they will speed up certain programs, but hey black ops and witcher just don't need that kinda arch yet, probably won't need it for a while.

This is why I will wait for bulldozer, because imho, it's going to be all I need for my app's and the price will be spot on like it has been for years.

Intels chips power and performance are impressive but useless in my eyes.. Amd gets you there & keeps you there for a year then you upgrade and it's not leaving a big empty wallet afterwards.
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Heh, I love broad generalized statements like that.

I don't need a faster cpu, but I'll be upgraded to bulldozer because its AMD!

Some people have weaker systems so a weaker cpu seems fine, however others actually have nearly twice as much graphical power at their disposal and because of this they actually require twice the cpu power.
    
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Heh, I love broad generalized statements like that.

I don't need a faster cpu, but I'll be upgraded to bulldozer because its AMD!

Some people have weaker systems so a weaker cpu seems fine, however others actually have nearly twice as much graphical power at their disposal and because of this they actually require twice the cpu power.

Is it broad and generalized?

"I don't need a faster cpu, but I'll be upgraded to bulldozer because its AMD"

twice as much graphical power at their disposal : For what? So you don't have to upgrade in the near future? You will anyhow.

I have mentioned Intel's superiority so far so I don't understand your defense for intel in your "Yukon's a amd fan boy" comment.

I'll mention it a little clearer and with a more blunt point, people who want to upgrade to bulldozer or Ivy, should do just that, wait. I mean honestly what is your average guy gaining for himself other than useless speed, by that i mean you have a top fuel dragster but only go 1/4 throttle down the track.

The reason I'd like to have bulldozer?

1) Because I can wait.

2) Because I can almost tell you it's going to be cheaper and possibly as fast

I have no beef with Intel other than I can never afford their top chip or their second runner up, with AMD I can. Honeslty I upgraded to the 955 about last Feb or march and in Feb or march of 2012 my intentions are to go with bulldozer..

Why am I not running AMD's newer 6 core? Honeslty I've read reviews and they're best gaming chips seems the be there quad's 955,965,975,980. I didn't think that it was worth the money to upgrade if I could just raise the multi a little to sit mine right there with them. I though that was a weak attempt by AMD myself so....

I'd say if you have anything less than a quadcore processor it might be time to take a little leap up.
    
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I read to "your average" then I released you're new here and haven't figured out this isn't your average user playground.

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No matter what platform you are on, if Bulldozer is successful, it will help to keep CPU prices reasonable.



Again, not trying to start an argument. What one person constitutes as "a major change" may be different than what another person thinks a "major change" is. The fact is that Ivy Bridge is planned to have an architectural change in the implementation of its transistors. This change is not in current Sandy Bridge CPU's.

Does that constitute a major change or a semi-major change, or a minor change? That depends on your opinion. The only fact here is that it is a change. Until someone can produce a statistical document from a peer reviewed scientific journal stating what criteria, standards, and metrics are used to determine whether a change in the architecture of a CPU is significant or insignificant, this argument should be put to rest. It has strayed off topic.

transistor design and how you instal them wont change the logic behind the processor .... intel will probably add a new extension set to improve on their current architecture ... but other then that it will stay the same ....


Q: so please tell me ... how having 3d transistors change the logic of the cpu????


A: it doesnt change anything ... its how you interconnect them to build logic blocks that makes the difference .... and no transistor design will change that
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I read to "your average" then I released you're new here and haven't figured out this isn't your average user playground.

Enjoy your stay.
Lol if your statement were anywhere near being true,we'd all be running around with 980X's. There are quite few around here running "average user" systems.
So you need a 2500K and SLI GTX470 plus a 9800GT just for gaming? Try something more useful like folding.
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I read to "your average" then I released you're new here and haven't figured out this isn't your average user playground.

Enjoy your stay.
I get ya..

Bulldozer platforms will be above average that's one thing I can assure you.

Furthermore,

You actually sound so bias that I find it hard for you to contribute anything worthwhile in this particular discussion. You have to understand that your doing that to yourself. I know there are diehard fan's on either side but say your peace and move along. For the record I could care less about your join date or post count, especially if its all the same senseless posting about others being average and your superiority.
    
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Lol if your statement were anywhere near being true,we'd all be running around with 980X's. There are quite few around here running "average user" systems.
So you need a 2500K and SLI GTX470 plus a 9800GT just for gaming? Try something more useful like folding.
Actually I do

And I need to overclock them.

$1500 doesn't go as far as it should



yukon, I may be bias... but its not unwarranted bias or blatantly wrong bias. It's the bias you can only get after giving something a lot of effort, only to discover it didn't have what you were looking for. Then seeing the new design being touted as something I'd want when in most applications I run don't actually use 4 cores, they use 2.


Heavy, you seem to think the 980x is the best chip for what I do (gaming) it isn't. Not by a long shot. It may be $1000, it may have two more cores, and it may even at HT. That doesn't mean its faster for what I do.
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transistor design and how you instal them wont change the logic behind the processor .... intel will probably add a new extension set to improve on their current architecture ... but other then that it will stay the same ....


Q: so please tell me ... how having 3d transistors change the logic of the cpu????


A: it doesnt change anything ... its how you interconnect them to build logic blocks that makes the difference .... and no transistor design will change that

The topic of the thread is whether of not the OP should get the i7 960 or wait for the release of bulldozer. Read the original post. Enough time has been wasted on infantile semantics in this thread. Unless the OP has something else to add, it would appear that the topic has run its course.

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