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I have an extra 8800gts 512mb lying around, was thinking of using it for physx or just putting it in another system.

How does the 8800gts 512mb version perform as physx card for Mafia 2 and Batman AA?
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Well, the chances of it actually holding back your 570 are quite high because while your GPU is already done processing its bit, the 8800GTS will have to catch up to it with its PhysX calculations.
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Not that good, I always reccommend gts 250/gtx 260 minimum
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A 570 should be able to handle rendering the game + PhysX significantly better than an 8800 GTS would handle just PhysX.
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If you really want a PhysX card, go for GTX 260.
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I'm going to have to go ahead and kinda 'disagree' (yeeeeah) with the general sentiments on this thread.

An 8800GTS 512MB is more than adequate as a physX card coupled with a GTX570. In fact, I'd go so far as to say it's perfect for the task.

You will most definitely see improved performance in BM:AA and Mafia 2 by deploying it as a dedicated physX card vs. having your 570 handle both rendering and physX. Esp. if you max out the IQ in the games, such that the 570 has a heavy rendering load.

The recent talk around here about 'bottlenecking' being caused by using lower-end cards as dedicated physX processors with higher-end cards for rendering ... has been a bit, shall we say, 'overblown'?

Obviously one does not want to use a 32-shader 8600GT with SLI580's or the like, but anything with 96 shaders or more is going to provide a benefit to any single card, and most SLI, setups. At least, it will in games if you run a high IQ. PhysX benches like Fluidmark, where the rendering is super-easy ... are a different story.
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anything with 96 shaders or more is going to provide a benefit to any single card, and most SLI, setups.
This is something that should be communicated to everyone who makes a PhysX thread daily since you summarized it perfectly.
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I'm going to have to go ahead and kinda 'disagree' (yeeeeah) with the general sentiments on this thread.

An 8800GTS 512MB is more than adequate as a physX card coupled with a GTX570. In fact, I'd go so far as to say it's perfect for the task.

You will most definitely see improved performance in BM:AA and Mafia 2 by deploying it as a dedicated physX card vs. having your 570 handle both rendering and physX. Esp. if you max out the IQ in the games, such that the 570 has a heavy rendering load.

The recent talk around here about 'bottlenecking' being caused by using lower-end cards as dedicated physX processors with higher-end cards for rendering ... has been a bit, shall we say, 'overblown'?

Obviously one does not want to use a 32-shader 8600GT with SLI580's or the like, but anything with 96 shaders or more is going to provide a benefit to any single card, and most SLI, setups.
You're incorrect sir, I've done several benchmarks with my gtx 480 + 9800gtx+ as physx, and I get better performance with my gtx 480 alone.

Here is the thread about it.
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You're incorrect sir, I've done several benchmarks with my gtx 480 + 9800gtx+ as physx, and I get better performance with my gtx 480 alone.

Here is the thread about it.
Firstly, like I added to my post after you quoted me, Fluidmark is a totally different ballgame. The rendering is SO easy in Fluidmark that the main card has nothing else to do besides physX ... so it performs better alone than it does with a slower card for physX.

And secondly, do you have any idea how many times I've tested physX and posted results threads on OCN? Probably not but the answer is ... A LOT.

Here's Mafia 2 bench, comparing 470's in SLI (also doing physX) and the same + 8800GT for physX (this is w/the 8800GT at bone-stock). The labels are reversed, however .. the pink line is using the 8800GT as dedicated card. Note that the beginning of the benchmark has a lot of cloth in it, which is where having the dedicated card *really* helps in Mafia 2.



And here's Batman AA Benchmark, same scenario (SLI 470's + 8800GT as physX card).




And here's Batman AA benchmark, looking at various single rendering card configurations:





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I have also tested Mafia 2, and my fps went down by about 10% with using my 9800gtx+ as my physx card.
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