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Okay, I'm in the middle of reading the stickies and I want part of the team. But before that I would like to know any tips/tricks that you guys can give, whatever it is that you think its worth knowing. Are you guys mostly using H20 or the more extreme LN2? Oh and also, which parts of my rig need upgrading?

I'm thinking going up to the MIV and getting some dominator GTs

Btw HWBOT isn't accepting registration ?

My brain is a sponge, soak it with all the water(knowledge) that you can with it!
Edited by phaseshift - 6/11/11 at 1:20pm
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There is still a register button there on the main page, does it say no registration after filling in the info?
Most guys start out on water, after getting scores as maxed out as possible extreme cooling lets you go further. Sandy Bridge has changed things a bit, the cpus don't clock more when frozen like the previous generations did, but freezing gpus is still fun for 3d.
Depending on temps/voltages custom water should help keep it cooler when running high clocks & voltages, I'll still freeze the cpu but more just to help save the chip than getting better clocks.
    
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If you don't have a custom loop yet, skip it. On the CPU you might get 100MHz more, max. Save the money you would spend on a WC kit and put it towards a dice/LN2 pot!
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You have a great setup for most benches except wprime due to the thread count, if your chip does over 5200 you can bag yourself some nice points in superpi, pifast and 3d tests such as 01, 03 and 05
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If you are going to play with SB, you would need to find a good clocking chip first. I make due with my 5.25ghz chip, but my scores would greatly benefit from a better clocking cpu.

Hypers don't play well with most SB set ups, although some people manage to get them to run well. Some of those ripjaw-x use bbse ic's and they clock pretty well and work well. I've been using some psc and they work better than my hypers on my board.

Benching 3d is pretty much where it's at, unless you got a great chip and can run 2d benches. Still, 2d requires some tweaking and you can get to learn ram tuning and OS tweaks.

I started with H20, but it wasn't for benching. I still use my loop with my 2500k, and I use it with video cards before i freeze them. For great scores, you need subzero. Freezing stuff does require practice and patience, but it's good fun. Most cards will end up needing mods once you start freezing them. Best thing is to buy some old 8800 cards and mess around with them. You can get them for $30-40 shipped and if you kill them its not too bad. Gpu pots are pricey, but freezing gpu's is fun. SB and frozen cards = lots of boints.
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i run my 2600k on water @ 5450.0, while some of my 2D's were subpar my 3D's on stock cards with water were very nice. a standard 5770 on water brought in 120.0 points. so gather a bunch of GPU's and bench your heart out on 3D with a decent SB chip and move up the ranks very fast.
if you get lucky and find a 5.8 2600k, well then you're golden. a week of 2D and 3D will put you in the top 10 on OCN no problem and you wont need Dice or LN2.

grab a few spare hard drives, standard and maybe a ssd. load a few stripped os's like XP and Win7 and maybe a Vista or Server 03/08 and use those for benching, try not to use your everyday hard drive to bench on, you could get a corruption and loose all ur stuff.
    
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lots of knowledge so far in this thread! Thanks alot everyone, I should get another GTX 580.

How much do dice and ln2 setups run? How are the upkeeps?
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SLI doesn't really yeild as many points as single card. For sub-zero benching a pot can vary in price. You can find some for around $150 use, maybe even less. The koolance thing is probably one of the less expensive pots and can be often found used. Other than that, K|ngp|n pots are common in the US. I think they're closer to around $220 for the gemini, which is a cpu pot and close to the same for the tek-9 fat (gpu). The tek-9 slim is a little less, but those prices are before shipping. Usually you don't see any on the used market unless someone is getting out of the hobby.

There are plenty of people who make them in europe, but it'd cost a lot to send a 5 lb copper container across the ocean. Dewars are also pricey, but they hold their value well. Ebay price is around $350 for a 35L. You might find them for less or if you happen to come across a good deal. Ln2 price may vary by location. I pay about $1/L. Some places charge a lot more and you'll be lucky to find it cheaper. Some places also rent dewars.

DICE is more maintenance than LN2, and can also vary in price. I used to buy it for $0.60/lb, but the grocery store was $1.39/lb. I feel it lasts longer than LN2, but doesn't get as cold and you have to crush and stir it.

You don't reallly need to do anything to the pot. Just some good prep work on the motherboard and insulate everything well and you'll have nothing to worry about.
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Awesome! Any online retailers?

Btw would it be worth it to upgrade to the MIV and better ram?

Or keep my ws revolution and upgrade the ram instead?
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I'd keep the current mb for now and just buy a 4gb kit of ram. Even the cheapy stuff works since almost everything is PSC. It might not be the greatest ram, but with enough volts it can run decent. I push anywhere between 1.72v to about 1.8v on the mushkin i have. I'd just keep an eye out for a good chip and use the current one in the mean while. That's what I'm doing. I'm even half tempted to buy some cheap kits of ram to see if I can find some that are decent. The stuff thats rated like 7-8-7 or 8-10-8or any other random numbers are usually pretty similar. Some are PSC, some of the kingston stuff use BDBG or something like that and some are BBSE.

Which dominators do you currently have?
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