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Amazon has fast shipping and good customer service. So far, I have bought RAM, sound cards, and even cases from them and I was satisfied, or amazed at the speed of shipping each and every time. Depending on where you live, you may be offered the option to pay for a shipping and have an item delivered to you on the same day! On top of that, often times, they will end up matching or beating Newegg (significantly) on regular pricing and even sale items. For people like me who live in a state where Newegg charges tax, Amazon has been saved me tremendously on big purchases.

Lately, Newegg has fallen off my favored list. Even when they have something on sale that I want, the shipping has been asinine at best. I literally live about a mile away from the New Jersey warehouse, and I can't tell you how many times Newegg has shipped my package up and down the state before it arrived at my doorstep anywhere from 1-5 days later. But that's a whole different issue I have with them.

Anyway, for your situation, as long as Amazon has the product in stock, you are golden. If, for whatever reason, you have a problem with the item, Amazon CS is quick to make things right.
I totally agree with you on the in-state Newegg hate. Sure they have tons of things and their prices are sometimes the best on the net but the fact that shipping from a location a mere 40 miles away takes 3-5 days to get to me really grinds my gears. It's ridiculous. Not to mention the tax is sometimes a killer. Like when I bought most of the components for my rig in one sitting it was like extra $65.

Now Amazon on the other hand. Free shipping usually takes 2 days and there's no tax. Not to mention a no questions asked return policy as long as you are within the sales window. I find that buying things that say they are in stock and sold by Amazon have a much quicker turn around time on shipping and they are less reluctant to refund you your money if something is damaged or not as advertised, like the used pillow that my uncle bought from Amazon that was sold as "NEW". We called them up told them the situation (there were legit drool stains on the velour cover) and the woman on the phone gave us a shipping label and credited our CC and gave us a $10 credit on Amazon.

Can't beat them.
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Alright good to know, Yeah my cheapest option is actually the Sparkle on Amazon. I'm not blind/deaf I see the rave reviews of the Lightning, I know it must be a helluva card. The Sparkle should perform the same though right?
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Alright good to know, Yeah my cheapest option is actually the Sparkle on Amazon. I'm not blind/deaf I see the rave reviews of the Lightning, I know it must be a helluva card. The Sparkle should perform the same though right?
AFAIK the Sparkle is a reference design. Whereas the Lightning is not and has some retarded number of VRMs, I think maybe 16?

So with that in mind you may hit an OC wall earlier on the Sparkle as opposed to the Lightning with it's ridiculous power phases.
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Ok so i'm RMA'ing my 6950 2gb Twin Frozr II. Moving back to Nvidia (mainly cause I fold). I don't think the GTX 570 would be enough of an improvement over a 6950, so I'm pretty deadset on picking up a GTX 580.

I need one that overclock's well, and has aftermarket/better cooling already installed.

Thought's on these?

GTX 580 Lightning

Sparkle GTX 580

Especially want to know if anyone uses the Sparkle, Thanks.
Out of those two cards I'd personally choose the MSI Lightning.

I live in an area where we have a Fry's Electronics the EVGA GTX 580 is selling for $489.99 and after $30 Mail in Rebate = $459.99. Sweet deal hard to pass up. Been that way for the last month and will be at least until July 7, 2011.

Side note: NONE of the GTX 580's reference or non-reference has any VRM issues or problems what so ever. Great card all around and over clockable, over voltage with either. Lightning will OC better by a bit due to the non-reference cooling being better however.
     
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We called them up told them the situation (there were legit drool stains on the velour cover) and the woman on the phone gave us a shipping label and credited our CC and gave us a $10 credit on Amazon.

Can't beat them.
You really can't make this kind of stuff up, but Amazon really does honor their no questions asked return policy.

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Alright good to know, Yeah my cheapest option is actually the Sparkle on Amazon. I'm not blind/deaf I see the rave reviews of the Lightning, I know it must be a helluva card. The Sparkle should perform the same though right?
Overclocking really is luck of the draw, no matter who you go with. Even if you went with a Lightning, sure there are more power phases, but it really helps to eliminate bad power as a possible hinderance to your results; in other words, it will still only go as far as the GPU can handle the overclock and voltage. In reality, very few 580's can truly maintain a 1GHz clock rate, let alone go over it and still be stable for every day use without more better cooling.

My $0.02 is to approach buying a GTX 580 as buying one of the fastest single cards on the market, even at stock clocks. That Sparkle should deliver that, excellent cooling, and low noise all in one package. The fact that you fold makes the package that much more attractive. The possibility to overclock is just icing on the cake. But Arizonian is right, there haven't been many reports of poor overclocking 580's, so the odds are in your favor. Even at worst, they can do mid to high 800MHz range with a mild increase in voltage.
     
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Out of those two cards I'd personally choose the MSI Lightning.

I live in an area where we have a Fry's Electronics the EVGA GTX 580 is selling for $489.99 and after $30 Mail in Rebate = $459.99. Sweet deal hard to pass up. Been that way for the last month and will be at least until July 7, 2011.

Side note: NONE of the GTX 580's reference or non-reference has any VRM issues or problems what so ever. Great card all around and over clockable, over voltage with either. Lightning will OC better by a bit due to the non-reference cooling being better however.
I just finished reading the GTX 570 thread about people blowing their's up in large part because of the VRM setup. However you saying it's not a GTX 580 problem makes me more inclined to just get the Sparkle. We'll see, I have a week to decide.
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I got the Galaxy GTX 580 for $435. It came with the Arctic Accelero Xtreme Plus cooler already installed in the price. it OCs well, and runs very cool.
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Lightning FTW!
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The Lightning is an absolute beast of a card. I've got mine sitting on a modest OC of 917 core and 1834 shader, without even touching the voltage. I'm also getting the same temps as I was under stock settings. This is definitely the 580 to get if you're in the market for them.

Edit: My idle is lower actually with the slight OC, 29c versus 32c, but the load temps are the same.
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I just finished reading the GTX 570 thread about people blowing their's up in large part because of the VRM setup. However you saying it's not a GTX 580 problem makes me more inclined to just get the Sparkle. We'll see, I have a week to decide.
Well it's you choice and regardless you will get a good card in the 580, Sparkle, MSI, EVGA or any other vendor.

You asked for opinion and your getting more of a personal opinion poll right now. There are also no bad Sparkle reviews on the 580 or any of the other vendors. So it's your choice and up to your personal wants and needs.

Good luck in what ever you decide. Enjoy. Let us know what you ended up getting.
     
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