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I've spent a few hours now searching and reading about silver, water, algae, corrosion etc. In essence, what I've found is:

1) 0.999 silver is insoluble in distilled water, but as water will absorb gasses (like CO2) it will become mildly acid and silver ions will likely be dissolved but in extremely low concentrations, so low that it will most likely have little effect as a biocide.

2) there seems to be some degree of consensus silver is more effective for controlling bacteria, copper is more effective for algae.

3) Anodic index is only relevant for solid metal-to-metal contact, for instance like attaching a zinc anode to a boats propeller axle.

4) Electrode Potential should be is used when two metals (not metallically connected) are submersed in an electrolyte.

Nickel on copper is metallically connected. According to anodic index this represent no problem as the difference is only 0.35-0.30=0.05

When evaluating different metals in a closed waterloop the Electrode Potential should be used as this is should be seen as metals submersed in an electrolyte.

How conductive the water (electrolyte) is crucial. Pure water will be no problem. However, in a closed loop watercooling circuit with copper, brass, nickel, solder, flux-remains (radiator) etc the water will not stay pure for very long. Add some Nuke-Cu and you have a highly conductive electrolyte. Finally, put a Silver KillCoil in the tank and you have a disaster waiting to happen.

Look at the Electrode potential table, Silver on top at +0.8. Copper at +0.34. Nickel at -0.24. Silver to nickel is 1.04. Silver to copper 0.46. First goes the nickel, then copper.

Anyone remember the badly anodized Zalman aluminum reservoirs? Copper to aluminum is 2.01, small wonder they looked like a Swiss cheese after a few months.

If it was as simple as putting a piece of almost everlasting silver in the tank, why does companies that specialize in water additives exist at all?

Could it be that EK is right after all? Is it even remotely possible someone can admit EKs fingerpointing was at least partly justified?
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Silver coins have been used throughout history from Romans to Americans in wild west to effectively prevent water contamination and keep it potable as silver will inhibit both algae and bacteria, as will copper. In the more recent past, some have even scientifically measured silver ions in stagnant water from a silver coin, and after a few weeks silver ions were high enough concentration to inhibit bacteria and algae. I linked such a research paper on xtreme a while back, but unfortunately in their cleaning/modding craze, my posts are unreachable, and I dont feel like trying to find that paper again.

3.5% saltwater is very conductive, and has many trace metals, yet nickel plating is put on valve pumps in sea water to prevent corrosion under those harsh environments for years.

Nickel plated blocks from other companies, and from EK's past, ie 8800, did not corrode in our loops.

Some users reported just using distilled only, yet had copper showing under nickel in a few weeks, and one use using feser one with corrosion inhibitors had the same.

Nickel plating on new EK block, on one forum was found to have pores from nickel to copper, which is a known potential plating issue. Pores that allow direct nickel to copper contact under water, are going to corrode.

And yes, EK is partially correct, corrosion inhibitors may slow the corrosion in their blocks even if their plating has pores, but may not prevent it over life of the block.

So, option 1) use Ek nickel plating, and use corrosion inhibitors, which invite other issues, and may or may not protect nickel plating over life of block. Option 2) use a company that has thicker, better nickel plating, and use liquid of choice.

Add to that the credibility issues, ie EK blaming 2 ppm of copper sulfate for causing Ek acrylic reservoirs cracking, when acrylic/other plastics is one of the preferred storage vessels for even high concentrations of copper sulfate, let alone a contaminant level solution....makes it hard to believe any assertions from them.

Like I said in another forum, but was deleted, if appropriate nickel plating can survive sea water without corroding in years, nickel plating, if properly done, can survive our distilled + biocide.

Fingerpointing only started b/c Ek started it, and completely needlessly. All they had to do was apologize for the issue, make good on the issue, and NEUTRALLY state, "we know our customers prefer to use distilled + biocide, so we are going to improve our nickel plating to survive the type of cooling fluid our clients want to use." Allows Ek to duck blame if they need to, and gives a positive spin.

Besides, if they were interested in proving something, they would have tested a few of their new blocks, and let us read that.
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That^. In addition, you can alternatively use Cupric Sulfate for your loop. Just make sure that there's absolutely no aluminum, zinc, or iron in your loop.
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Could it be that EK is right after all? Is it even remotely possible someone can admit EKs fingerpointing was at least partly justified?
Hmm, one post. Are you affiliated with EK?
 
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Or he/she is a long time member but chose to post under an alias username so he/she isn't flamed for suggesting that EK may in part be correct
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I've spent a few hours now searching and reading about silver, water, algae, corrosion etc. In essence, what I've found is:

1) 0.999 silver is insoluble in distilled water, but as water will absorb gasses (like CO2) it will become mildly acid and silver ions will likely be dissolved but in extremely low concentrations, so low that it will most likely have little effect as a biocide.

2) there seems to be some degree of consensus silver is more effective for controlling bacteria, copper is more effective for algae.

3) Anodic index is only relevant for solid metal-to-metal contact, for instance like attaching a zinc anode to a boats propeller axle.

4) Electrode Potential should be is used when two metals (not metallically connected) are submersed in an electrolyte.

Nickel on copper is metallically connected. According to anodic index this represent no problem as the difference is only 0.35-0.30=0.05

When evaluating different metals in a closed waterloop the Electrode Potential should be used as this is should be seen as metals submersed in an electrolyte.

How conductive the water (electrolyte) is crucial. Pure water will be no problem. However, in a closed loop watercooling circuit with copper, brass, nickel, solder, flux-remains (radiator) etc the water will not stay pure for very long. Add some Nuke-Cu and you have a highly conductive electrolyte. Finally, put a Silver KillCoil in the tank and you have a disaster waiting to happen.

Look at the Electrode potential table, Silver on top at +0.8. Copper at +0.34. Nickel at -0.24. Silver to nickel is 1.04. Silver to copper 0.46. First goes the nickel, then copper.

Anyone remember the badly anodized Zalman aluminum reservoirs? Copper to aluminum is 2.01, small wonder they looked like a Swiss cheese after a few months.

If it was as simple as putting a piece of almost everlasting silver in the tank, why does companies that specialize in water additives exist at all?

Could it be that EK is right after all? Is it even remotely possible someone can admit EKs fingerpointing was at least partly justified?
I too suspected this from my research which is why I went with TT premix a year ago.
Ive just changed to straight demineralised water for a rebuild so Im checking daily with a torch for any change in the water/blocks. Ive order some UV blue additive from Aquacomputer which I'll add as soon as it gets here.
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Silver coins have been used throughout history from Romans to Americans in wild west to effectively prevent water contamination and keep it potable as silver will inhibit both algae and bacteria, as will copper. In the more recent past, some have even scientifically measured silver ions in stagnant water from a silver coin, and after a few weeks silver ions were high enough concentration to inhibit bacteria and algae. I linked such a research paper on xtreme a while back, but unfortunately in their cleaning/modding craze, my posts are unreachable, and I dont feel like trying to find that paper again.

3.5% saltwater is very conductive, and has many trace metals, yet nickel plating is put on valve pumps in sea water to prevent corrosion under those harsh environments for years.

Nickel plated blocks from other companies, and from EK's past, ie 8800, did not corrode in our loops.

Some users reported just using distilled only, yet had copper showing under nickel in a few weeks, and one use using feser one with corrosion inhibitors had the same.

Nickel plating on new EK block, on one forum was found to have pores from nickel to copper, which is a known potential plating issue. Pores that allow direct nickel to copper contact under water, are going to corrode.

And yes, EK is partially correct, corrosion inhibitors may slow the corrosion in their blocks even if their plating has pores, but may not prevent it over life of the block.

So, option 1) use Ek nickel plating, and use corrosion inhibitors, which invite other issues, and may or may not protect nickel plating over life of block. Option 2) use a company that has thicker, better nickel plating, and use liquid of choice.

Add to that the credibility issues, ie EK blaming 2 ppm of copper sulfate for causing Ek acrylic reservoirs cracking, when acrylic/other plastics is one of the preferred storage vessels for even high concentrations of copper sulfate, let alone a contaminant level solution....makes it hard to believe any assertions from them.

Like I said in another forum, but was deleted, if appropriate nickel plating can survive sea water without corroding in years, nickel plating, if properly done, can survive our distilled + biocide.

Fingerpointing only started b/c Ek started it, and completely needlessly. All they had to do was apologize for the issue, make good on the issue, and NEUTRALLY state, "we know our customers prefer to use distilled + biocide, so we are going to improve our nickel plating to survive the type of cooling fluid our clients want to use." Allows Ek to duck blame if they need to, and gives a positive spin.

Besides, if they were interested in proving something, they would have tested a few of their new blocks, and let us read that.
1. Never heard of ancient Romans going nickel plating
2. EK proved it is not flaking but corrosion. (titles of thread were rapidly changing). ----------There is your test.
3. industrial valves and its plating cost 100X more than you would be willing to pay for a block (i know because I used them). On second thought, go ahead and ask any manufacturers if they are willing to do custom, long-life warranty plating for you since money is no problem. And in industry things do corrode, regardless of protection The only difference is, there are regular check ups and good documented maintenace.
4. Ek is not the only one having problem. Recently there was corroded Koolance CPU block posted, but it seems like it went past most of memebers attention. Since most of other brand blocks are nicely closed, possible damage to block is not spotted at all and life goes on.

Quote:
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That^. In addition, you can alternatively use Cupric Sulfate for your loop. Just make sure that there's absolutely no aluminum, zinc, or iron in your loop.
For refference only PT nuke PHN is specially designed for use with distilled water. PT Nuke CU does not state that. Makes me think why??

Quote:
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Hmm, one post. Are you affiliated with EK?
Everybody thinking in contrary to major belief is affiliated.
So are people who doubt government policy affiliated to criminals and are being ears dropped or thrown to jail

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phatboy69 View Post
I too suspected this from my research which is why I went with TT premix a year ago.
Ive just changed to straight demineralised water for a rebuild so Im checking daily with a torch for any change in the water/blocks. Ive order some UV blue additive from Aquacomputer which I'll add as soon as it gets here.
Distilled only could be fine if you drain your loop every 2-3 months and change water. I used car coolant though, no problems.
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1. Never heard of ancient Romans going nickel plating
Neither have I, which is why the post said silver coins .

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2. EK proved it is not flaking but corrosion. (titles of thread were rapidly changing). ----------There is your test.
Correct, they proved THEIR nickel plated blocks corrode. I completely agree, which is why I will use another vendors nickel blocks, that are better plated to prevent corrosion. People complaining of copper showing through in weeks to months with only distilled...sorry nickel plating can be done better, and in the past it was.

People used distilled + pt nuke for over a year with no problems in even older EK 8800 blocks, plus other vendors, so it can be done.
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So what I get from this is it's bad that I ran PTNuke and had a silver kill coil at the same time? I am on a Rasa though.
    
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I was using the PHN
Then you should be safe. PHN is to be added to distilled, not CU.
I'd change distilled from time to time anyway. It's cheap way to maintain.
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