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Finally. Wonder if Windows 8 will not cause fragmentation.

is that even as much of an issue anymore with the advent of solid state drives and the relegation of disc drives to storage of primarily large media files?
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Originally Posted by ZTR1760;13843265 
I'm guessing that it will allow larger than 3TB disks to be recognized. It would make sense.

Vista x64 and 7 x64 can already do that, at least on UEFI systems...

I just built an HTPC for my sister using a single 3TB drive, a small partition for the OS/apps and a massive ~2.6TB partition for media files.
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Finally. Wonder if Windows 8 will not cause fragmentation.
tbh, Win7 is pretty good at not fragmenting.
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All I ask from this new FS is the ability to add custom tag fields (ignoring file type), and breaking the 255 character limit.
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tbh, Win7 is pretty good at not fragmenting.
Yeah I have 0-5% fragmentation on all of my drives and 3 haven`t been defragged ever, The other 2 at least a year ago
Interesting @ thread
wonder about backward compatibility
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Can't wait for Windows 13 by end of July 2012...
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post #16 of 59
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tbh, Win7 is pretty good at not fragmenting.
IIRC, Vista and Win7 actually defragment in the background. So they are fragmenting just as much as XP, it's just they fix it themselves without you noticing.
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is that even as much of an issue anymore with the advent of solid state drives and the relegation of disc drives to storage of primarily large media files?



Vista x64 and 7 x64 can already do that, at least on UEFI systems...

I just built an HTPC for my sister using a single 3TB drive, a small partition for the OS/apps and a massive ~2.6TB partition for media files.
Did I miss something? Did SSD's drop in price overwhelmingly?!

Yes, fragmentation is still a bit of an issue, and I don't understand peoples "Windows 7 is good at not fragementing" comments because I understand fragmentation occurs through the way the file systems of the last two decades, or so, have been designed, not the OS. Or am I wrong?

For instance:

1. File 1
2. File 1
3. File 1
4.Video 1
5.Video 1
6. File 2
7. File 2
8. Video 3
9. Video 3
10. Video 3

That would be an non-fragmented hard drive. The numbers 1 - 10 represent imaginary allocations (much like the file allocation table).

After some use and files being deleted it would look like this:

1. File 1
2. File 1
3. File 1
4.Video 2
5.Video 2
6. File 2
7. File 2
8. Video 2
9. File 3
10. Video 3
11. File 3
12. File 3
13. Video 3
14. Video 4
15.Video 4

Video 2 & 3 are fragmented.

After long use:

1. File 4
2. File 4
3. File 4
4.Video 2
5.Video 2
6. File 4
7. File 2
8. Video 2
9. File 2
10. Video 3
11. File 3
12. File 1
13. File 3
14. Video 4
15.Video 3
    
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post #18 of 59
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I can format and use 3TB drives with FAT32 or NTFS just fine.
I call bs. You cannot use fat or fat32 on drives larger then 32 gigs. Cool story tho bro.
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Interesting, it would seem that the new file system may need hardware support, if that was the case then it may be a limiting factor for some, however one would assume that NTFS would still be an option for those without hardware support. In anycase, who knows at this point.
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I can format and use 3TB drives with FAT32 or NTFS just fine.
No, you cant. NTFS YES. But with FAT32 you cannot utilize the whole of your drive by a longshot. Yes you can technically formate it using FAT32 but only a small portion of it would be usable as an active partition.
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