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Llano A8-3500M mobile APU review.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/a8-350...iew-32207.html
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From the above article:

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As is so often the case, there is no right answer to those questions. It’s a matter of individual usage patterns. To be frank, most folks aren’t going to be able to distinguish between a Sandy Bridge-based Core processor or a Llano-based A-series chip when it comes to Web browsing or composing a document in Word. Then again, if you fire up a game, the A-series APU surges past Intel’s HD Graphics implementation. Play that same title on a mobile system using battery power and you’re treated to another surprise: improved performance is complemented by longer battery life.

Intel addresses processing-intensive workloads more adeptly. Quick Sync makes transcoding much more viable on a mobile platform, too. There’s no getting around the superiority of the Nehalem architecture over Stars. But, at least in the notebook space, graphics ability and battery life are going to be priorities for most folks. The fact that 3ds Max doesn’t run as well on Llano is of less consequence.

So, what’s the final verdict? Llano has the potential to introduce impressive graphics-oriented value to the low/mid-range market; this APU easily outclasses Intel HD Graphics 3000. Its power-saving advantage is definitely appreciable in the notebook space, and we’re hoping that more generous desktop thermals give the processor side of these chips a little more room to be competitive. At the same time, Llano will forever be squeezed into the lower echelons of mainstream on the desktop by a superior Intel CPU matched up to faster discrete graphics cards. This doesn’t matter much to the folks chasing low prices, but we’ll have to wait for Trinity to see if AMD can come up with an APU that can simultaneously challenge Intel’s processing capabilities as it wipes the floor with its on-die graphics. A no-compromise part would almost certainly guarantee more success than the give-and-take that is Llano.
A very informative and in-depth review. +1 for for posting it Heavy
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very interesting read!

happy for amd to be able to kick intel in the butt in games, but that is more or less to be expected. the cpu performance still worries me, but that might be a different story come 2012...

i couldn't help but worry for amd that they kind of shot themselves in the foot with llano, with trinity coming in a year's time, just how many of us would be likely to venture into llano products, knowing that the bulldozer based apu will certainly bring more performace to the cpu side. i sense intel sandybridge based notebooks stealing the market for at least another year...
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A very informative and in-depth review. +1 for for posting it Heavy
No problem!
However it seems that CPU performance is a concern,but doesn't the SB chip have hardware optimizations that give higher benchmark scores,but don't really make a huge difference in day to day use?
The A8 isn't bad at all,and kicks Intel's butt in anything that supports GPU acceleration.
I wonder if the mobile version can be overclocked a bit.
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No problem!
However it seems that CPU performance is a concern,but doesn't the SB chip have hardware optimizations that give higher benchmark scores,but don't really make a huge difference in day to day use?
The A8 isn't bad at all,and kicks Intel's butt in anything that supports GPU acceleration.
I wonder if the mobile version can be overclocked a bit.
actually, doesn't photoshop utilise gpu acceleration? but intel still beats amd by quite some comfortable margin, and other useful daily apps like winrar and in my case autodesk, amd still definitely have some catching up to do.

as regard to overclocking, not sure it's a good idea though, the turbo boost already have problems as it is. it offers pretty close to nothing within the thermal envelope, i can imagine an overclocked llano in crysis 2 getting a little toasty, lol. overclocking will also eat up the battery life which is one of the biggest selling point of llano.

but, if amd sort out dual gpu driver issue, and the price is right, who knows, people might just want a break from all the intel stuff
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actually, doesn't photoshop utilise gpu acceleration? but intel still beats amd by quite some comfortable margin, and other useful daily apps like winrar and in my case autodesk, amd still definitely have some catching up to do.

as regard to overclocking, not sure it's a good idea though, the turbo boost already have problems as it is. it offers pretty close to nothing within the thermal envelope, i can imagine an overclocked llano in crysis 2 getting a little toasty, lol. overclocking will also eat up the battery life which is one of the biggest selling point of llano.

but, if amd sort out dual gpu driver issue, and the price is right, who knows, people might just want a break from all the intel stuff
Intel has its own optimization and quick sync or w/e in the GPU,I would assume it works kind of like Nvidia's CUDA cores. Radeon graphics still don't have acceleration in PS,not to mention the drivers for these new Radeon chips are still buggy.
Most users who will be using Llano won't be paying attention to how fast WinRAR compresses files. Why use Autodesk or CAD on a laptop anyway? In the end,the SB chip has a higher clock speed,and it has HT.

IMO,it's pointless to have a fast CPU,when you can't even run a game decently,or play HD video with actual HD quality & no lag.
If Llano notebooks are at the same or near price point as a Intel SB notebook with "HD graphics" then Llano will be a big hit.

As more software supports GPU acceleration,llano will make more sense,but they could definitely make some improvements with the next APU series.
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I'm guessing 2 generations from now, netbooks will just be notebooks with lesser screen width. They will need a new name, though, considering the "net" part was there to suggest the typical product use...I shall call them...mini-me!
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Good stuff !
I hope we will see them on the market soon.
   
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