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post #21 of 30
The difference of the size of res really doesn't matter. You can even go with no res at all; using a T line. Large res sometimes looks cool.
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post #22 of 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by triangle View Post
the difference of the size of res really doesn't matter. You can even go with no res at all; using a t line. large res always looks cool.
ftfy.
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post #23 of 30
So it takes 5 minutes to reach equilibrium instead of 3 minutes. lol! You need a 55 gallon drum to reach any worthwhile heat storage capabilities.

Larger res is mostly e-peen, possibly a bit faster to bleed, and less frequency topping off the loop from tubing porosity evaporation.

Tline works just fine, but doesn't look as cool.

It takes about 2.5 watts to heat one gallon of water one degree in one hour.

To heat it up in 5 minutes, one degree = roughly 30 watts.

To heat it up 10 degrees in five minutes it takes 300 watts

If you were running a 500 watt heat load, it would take 3 minutes to heat up 10 degrees.

If you doubled your volume of water, it would now take 6 minutes...whoopee! Better game really fast!!

There is a bit more going on than that with the tubing and radiator also going through a similar heat storage dynamic, but you get the idea. Really no benefit with watercooling sized reservoirs.
Edited by Martinm210 - 6/14/11 at 9:37pm
    
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post #24 of 30
Larger res take longer time to heat up coolant and longer time to cool down
post #25 of 30
My RES is a 1-gallon glass pickle jar. Glass can disapate heat into a cooler room.

If a PELT is added to the glass with a heats-nk and fan, the jar temps will drop. However, you will need to exhaust the heat load out of the room.
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post #26 of 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinm210 View Post
If you doubled your volume of water, it would now take 6 minutes...whoopee! Better game really fast!!
pish martin..

u know thats the required time to line up a sniper shot half way across the map, while using your full cpu power to calculate the fight path, and also additional gpu power for the physx involved..

meh... ignore me.. im just rambling..
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post #27 of 30
Lots of people have mentioned that the rate of change of water temperature is slower with a larger volume of water, but I don't think anyone has pointed out ways this could be advantageous.

Quote:
If you were running a 500 watt heat load, it would take 3 minutes to heat up 10 degrees.

If you doubled your volume of water, it would now take 6 minutes...whoopee! Better game really fast!!
Of course a larger res doesn't do anything to your temps in the long run, but it does smooth out the curve of temperature change in your water. It's not that this is particularly useful in the real world, but for the folks that want to boot their machine and run a single performance bench to prove they OC'ed to something insane before they blue screen, a 6 minute grace period before reaching steady state at maximum water temp could be pretty handy.

On the flipside, though, if you want to test your max temps by running burn-in tests in a loop, it'll take a lot longer to reach steady-state at maximum temps. So that could be an inconvenience of having a larger volume of water.

But as Martin says, it's only about 6 minutes of inconvenience.
post #28 of 30
One solution that would always keep your loop cool is placing the RES about 48-inches underground to utilize geothermal cooling. Or run a track of tubing about 48-inches deep all around in your crawl space.

This has been done before ... Can't post the link since it's on another forum.

Geothermal PC loop installation

Here is his backhoe skills. http://picasaweb.google.com/11578270...opInstallation

Took him 90mins to bleed the line.




Edited by bmaverick - 6/16/11 at 7:31pm
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post #29 of 30
it's much easier to bleed a large loop with a huge reservoir. I only use 400mm or larger cylindrical reservoirs for this reason. I just have to fill it up once and I won't have to worry about filling it up quickly while bleeding so the pumps don't run dry
 
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post #30 of 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by bmaverick View Post
One solution that would always keep your loop cool is placing the RES about 48-inches underground to utilize geothermal cooling. Or run a track of tubing about 48-inches deep all around in your crawl space.

This has been done before ... Can't post the link since it's on another forum.

Geothermal PC loop installation

Here is his backhoe skills. http://picasaweb.google.com/11578270...opInstallation

Took him 90mins to bleed the line.



Wow, that's the first I've seen a 325 used in water cooling. That's impressive..
    
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