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post #1 of 11
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I just got a Macbook Pro 15" with the 2.2ghz i7 and the HD6750m.

I have used it the last couple days and it gets so hot and so loud that I can't ignore it. Should I return it and try to get exchange it or is this what is to come with owning a Macbook?

Comparing it to my Acer 15" Laptop with an i5-430m and an HD5650m, in a game like World of Warcraft, the temps the two experience are wildly different. The Acer will top out at about 80c after a couple hours of raiding, whereas the Macbook will hit 90-98c after a couple minutes. The Acer is not even half as loud as the Macbook, which is spinning it's fans at 6200rpm (full speed).

This is my first ever purchase of a Mac product and I am thoroughly surprised that it this thing is so loud and hot. I thought that when you payed this much for a product you would get a little better creature comforts.

I am thinking of returning it for a refund since I do not want to be stuck with a screaming dragon for a few years.

What do yall think?
Edited by Syjeklye - 6/12/11 at 9:08pm
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I dont think a replacement would be any different. That's just what happens when you stick a 45w chip into such a slim chassis with minimal vents
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Quote:
I thought that when you payed this much for a product you would get a little better creature comforts.
Nope, just an emptier wallet.

As stated, Apple prioritizes aesthetics over functionality.
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Originally Posted by beers View Post
Nope, just an emptier wallet.

As stated, Apple prioritizes aesthetics over functionality.
I'm beginning to believe this more and more. It's just weird that a laptop with clearly better specs than my Acer can't even improve on anything...

Also, edited OP with some temp info.
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post #5 of 11
And you wonder why OCN NEVER recommends Apple...

Seriously though, you're paying $1200 for an i5 with its integrated graphics. You can get an i7 laptop for around $999. With a dedicated graphics card capable of running most recent games on high.
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Apple expects its customers to pay $1500 to browse the internet. If you are using it for anything else it will explode into a million very expensive pieces.
    
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Apple expects its customers to pay $1500 to browse the internet. If you are using it for anything else it will explode into a million very expensive pieces.
It just might explode. On intel's ark site, it says the max temp for the i7 2720qm is 100c. Reaching 98c when it's brand new with no dust in it means in the future it will only get worse.
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post #8 of 11
Does seem a little hot to be honest, usually Apple notebooks try not to get much hotter than about 70c and succeed.

Some screens of temps? Call me cynical but there are a lot of anti mac trolls here

One thing to make sure you've done is installed the firmware update for those machines. It had something to do with the GPU in those machines I think so it's worth a shot. I think it would be worth DOAing it if you can, 14 days is the limit I think.
post #9 of 11
I did some googling but unfortunately it does seems to be the trend with these new Pro's. You could try to exchange it for a new one but I doubt it'll make a huge difference.

So if it doesn't then you have 2 options. Either you could get rid of the Pro and buy a similar spec'd non-Apple laptop, or you can try to do something about it.

The first, easiest thing you could try is to install some fan regulating software, and put the maximum speed to a lower, more tolerable level. I've been playing along with the fan speeds on my late 2009 17', but I found the results for high RPM's rather underwhelming. At 1500RPM (stock) it gets to about 105C, and max (6000RPM) only sees a drop to about 98C. That's a 100% increase in noise for a 6% drop in temperature.
You could try playing with it to find a more ideal level of noise. Keep a close eye on the temps though because you don't want to be running it lots above 100C as it'll probably start to throttle down and your performance will go down the drain. Just that mine doesn't react much to high RPM's doesn't mean yours will as well,

You could also try to change the thermal paste on that thing. This is a much more tedious job, but it will actually get your laptop cooler instead of even hotter.
Apple is notorious for usually putting a crapload of thermal paste between the CPU and heatsink, which in this way rather works like an insulator.
There are some step by step manuals on it on iFixit, but it basically requires you to take the entire machine apart, something which I can imagine could turn you off doing on a brand new $1600,- laptop.
People say it will void your warranty by doing so, I say it will only void it if you leave noticeable traces behind. So if you're careful and succeed you'll probably have a 25C
cooler Pro and some nice experience on how to take one apart on top of that
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Unfortunately, this is also what I saw my options were. The whole re-doing the thermal paste is a good idea; however I would need to buy some smaller hex key drivers and it will void the warranty. I just can't justify taking the risk of voiding the warranty on trying to fix their mistake on a $2200 laptop.

Exchanging was an option, but I have seen pictures of people doing the new thermal paste only to find out that their macbook didn't have an over-application originally. This greatly discourages me to even try to do an exchange.

I am ending up just returning it for a refund. I appreciate all of yall's help. I am thoroughly disappointed that this macbook didn't work out for me. I love the aesthetics of macs and thought that the specs were good enough to last me for a while. I guess I am just not the type of person apple sells to.
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