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Well that's slightly disappointing
22nm quad core at 1.8Ghz, with an actually relatively low vCore, requiring 95W TDP!?
Even the dual core, despite having half the cores, less cache, and also very low vCore, requires 95W TDP. I know this is ES, but for a dual core requiring that high TDP for 22nm and a low speed, that doesn't seem very right. The last dual core I knew that took 95W TDP was 65nm Athlon x2
They're early engineering samples. Probably still A silicon. 1.8GHz is pretty standard, so is 1.6GHz. It's done to ensure maximum stability and to help account for minor manufacturing defects that prone to be present in early run silicon. If you do a search for SandyBridge E and the original SB Engineering Samples you'll see most of them were sub 2.0GHz chips as well.
    
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Perhaps they've created a standard single core "i" CPU. for netbooks perhaps?

Ivy's architecture IS quite the advancement, so I wouldn't doubt a model even lower than the i3.
There's nothing new with ivy's architecture... it's just a die shrink. Allegedly it'll use 3d transistors as well, but it's not really known how big of a factor that will be.

I also guarantee they'll have "pentium" branded lower-end chips like they have with sandy bridge.

Wonder what it'll cost...
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Hey that looks just like a prescott I had... and a conroe... and a nehalem... and a sandy bridge...

Here's to the good old days.
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There's nothing new with ivy's architecture... it's just a die shrink. Allegedly it'll use 3d transistors as well, but it's not really known how big of a factor that will be.

I also guarantee they'll have "pentium" branded lower-end chips like they have with sandy bridge.

Wonder what it'll cost...

Not true.

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/06/ivy-bridge-processors-set-to-be-another-big-upgrade/
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So Ivy Bridge is a ‘tick’, scaling down from 32nm to 22nm. But yesterday Intel’s Mooly Eden said that new transistor technology being introduced with Ivy Bridge has let them make some changes to architecture at the same time. And with that will come a fresh set of power and performance upgrades.
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Hey that looks just like a prescott I had... and a conroe... and a nehalem... and a sandy bridge...

Here's to the good old days.
Ahh the good ol' days My parents skipped the PII and went from Pentium 166Mhz to PIII 500Mhz. Man that sucker was fast.



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I have only seen improvements through the chipset(quad channel mem etc.), not the actual CPU. Links to architectural improvements in CPU plz(besides 22nm)
Die shrink allows for less heat = better OCing and more cores. 4 & 6 core Ivy-Bridge and 8 Core Ivy-Bride Extreme.
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 6/13/11 at 3:25pm
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Would be funny if these came out before BD

ivy is slated for Q2 2012 ... so i doubt it that bulldozer will be delayed another year ....




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Ahh the good ol' days My parents skipped the PII and went from Pentium 166Mhz to PIII 500Mhz. Man that sucker was fast.




Die shrink allows for less heat = better OCing and more cores. 4 & 6 core Ivy-Bridge and 8 Core Ivy-Bride Extreme.
die shrinks allows for more transistors per area period ... the less heat etc... is because of the method used to build the cpu differs from generation to generations ... not from shrinking ....


theres alot more then just the size of the features in a cpu ....
Edited by Fr0sty - 6/13/11 at 7:45pm
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I have only seen improvements through the chipset(quad channel mem etc.), not the actual CPU. Links to architectural improvements in CPU plz(besides 22nm)
Uh the link in the post right above yours?
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Yeah, Q2 2012? I will definitely upgrade from my PhII before then.
    
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post #49 of 107
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Well that's slightly disappointing
22nm quad core at 1.8Ghz, with an actually relatively low vCore, requiring 95W TDP!?
Even the dual core, despite having half the cores, less cache, and also very low vCore, requires 95W TDP. I know this is ES, but for a dual core requiring that high TDP for 22nm and a low speed, that doesn't seem very right. The last dual core I knew that took 95W TDP was 65nm Athlon x2
You're a fanboy at it's max, between most of your posts in the Bulldozer rumor threads and now this. Understand that this is an engineering sample. Just like Bulldozer, it is not the final product.
Edited by Doogiehouser - 6/13/11 at 8:50pm
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Bulldozer needs to come out already so I can make the final decision as to what platform I'll be buying. Ivy bridge won't have the BCLK locked, right? Combine the overclockabilty of Sandy Bridge with an unlocked BCLK and a die shrink, and this should be quite the powerhouse. Hope it's priced great like Sandy Bridge.
I thik you've heard wrong. Intel have linked all internal clocks to one clock, the base clock. Overclocking this too much (5%+ on SB) kills components. This won't change in IvyBridge unless they lock the other clocks and only allow the CPU to be overclocked, in which case, why have a baseclock?

Yeah, not going to happen.
    
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