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Originally Posted by xd_1771 View Post
Well that's slightly disappointing
22nm quad core at 1.8Ghz, with an actually relatively low vCore, requiring 95W TDP!?
Even the dual core, despite having half the cores, less cache, and also very low vCore, requires 95W TDP. I know this is ES, but for a dual core requiring that high TDP for 22nm and a low speed, that doesn't seem very right. The last dual core I knew that took 95W TDP was 65nm Athlon x2
It's an Engineering sample. IIRC, the last few ES's I've seen, Intel and AMD, are clocked at 1.8GHz. It's a norm. I wouldn't worry about those details.
    
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post #52 of 107
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Yeah, Q2 2012? I will definitely upgrade from my PhII before then.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Leake...h-202474.shtml
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You're a fanboy at it's max, between most of your posts in the Bulldozer rumor threads and now this. Understand that this is an engineering sample. Just like Bulldozer, it is not the final product.
I think he may have just thought that the "xxW" specification meant that it was final.

Look at Sandy Bridge, even it's not 95w, and this is 22nm.
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Oh shizzle, seriously?

Well, I guess that makes sense. What with their 32nm S2011 CPUs coming out..

I guess I'll have to wait a year to upgrade, then.

No big deal though.
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Oh shizzle, seriously?

Well, I guess that makes sense. What with their 32nm S2011 CPUs coming out..

I guess I'll have to wait a year to upgrade, then.

No big deal though.


sandy now or bulldozer ... and wait for haswell and bulldozer gen 2 in 2013 ....


that's what ill do anyway ...

or you could wait before upgrading
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sandy now or bulldozer ... and wait for haswell and bulldozer gen 2 in 2013 ....


that's what ill do anyway ...

or you could wait before upgrading
BullE is expected in 2012

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BullE is expected in 2012

but i did say 2nd gen bull .... not refreshed bulldozer ... + i did add the 2013 year ... both of those should have been clues telling you that i wasnt talking about the 2012 refresh product but the 2013 2nd gen product
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It's an engineering sample, over 10 months before the actual release, I think the only thing we can draw from this is that there is actually an Ivy Bridge.
Okay, I get it, it's an ES. But seriously, Intel has not released a >65W dual core since the 65nm Core 2 Duo (on the AMD side, the 65nm Athlon x2 K10). Those were 45-65nm beasts at clock speeds upwards of 3Ghz. This is 22nm, supposedly with very low power consumption/heat output, and at a rather low 1.8Ghz, and the TDP rating is still very high. I am aware this is an ES processor, I have no problem with the low clock speed or brand name or any of that. The TDP though really seems like quite the nonsense to me.

And let's see, the quad core TDP... same thing. So a quad core and a dual core at the same speed on a 22nm process output the same heat. Heh.

No reason to put the pressure on me and cry "fanboy", jeez. We can all find something slightly outrageous to begin with. This is what I think.
Edited by xd_1771 - 6/13/11 at 10:26pm
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Okay, I get it, it's an ES. But seriously, Intel has not released a >65W dual core since the 65nm Core 2 Duo (on the AMD side, the 65nm Athlon x2 K10). Those were 45-65nm beasts at clock speeds upwards of 3Ghz. This is 22nm, supposedly with very low power consumption/heat output, and at a rather low 1.8Ghz, and the TDP rating is still very high. I am aware this is an ES processor, but this really seems like quite the nonsense to me.

No reason to put the pressure on me and cry "fanboy", jeez. We can all find something slightly outrageous to begin with.

ES shouldnt be critiqued about their high power draw or anything .. they are made with the highest yields in mind ... so they have more samples to find the bugs before they go into mass production ....


with the amount of transistors packed into a cpu its getting harder to make em without problems ... so they take ensure they have the process done right .. and those es are one step to make sure everything is right before you buy it ....
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Okay, I get it, it's an ES. But seriously, Intel has not released a >65W dual core since the 65nm Core 2 Duo (on the AMD side, the 65nm Athlon x2 K10). Those were 45-65nm beasts at clock speeds upwards of 3Ghz. This is 22nm, supposedly with very low power consumption/heat output, and at a rather low 1.8Ghz, and the TDP rating is still very high. I am aware this is an ES processor, I have no problem with the low clock speed or brand name or any of that. The TDP though really seems like quite the nonsense to me.

And let's see, the quad core TDP... same thing. So a quad core and a dual core at the same speed on a 22nm process output the same heat. Heh.

No reason to put the pressure on me and cry "fanboy", jeez. We can all find something slightly outrageous to begin with. This is what I think.
Chill out man. Just admit you didn't know that ES samples are nothing close to final.
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