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Originally Posted by Artikbot View Post
Actually, no.
Actually yes they are Tri-gate chips look here.

Whats with all of the stupidity lately? ES chips have been low clocked like this for some time and now all of a sudden people want to complain about it?
 
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So now all the AMD fanboys who have been crying the past few weeks about Intel fanboys posting in their precious BD threads come swarming into an Intel thread to talk smack about early ES IB chips?

Hey pot, this is kettle, guess what? You're black....
post #83 of 107
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Originally Posted by 2010rig View Post
Yea, and not to mention that on Sandy Bridge the multiplier tops at 57 I believe.

I hope we get the bclk back in X79. The enthusiast platform wouldn't be complete with multiplier only overclocking.

....

And in case it hasn't been said enough, ES samples are always low clocked, IIRC the 980x ES samples were clocked at 2.0. These are Dual & Quad IB samples.
SB tops at 59 but there's some artificial limitation so many chips won't even boot above ~53. You have to get a "golden" chip to be able to use the higher multipliers.

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Originally Posted by Artikbot View Post
Actually, no.

Intel said TG transistors could run AGES faster than their planar counterparts, so 1.8GHz is pretty disappointing.

Okay, okay, they still have a year to refine ES, but like I said with BD, a chip revision isn't going to go magically from 1.8GHz to 4GHz, you know.

Maybe SB-E and BDr2 will be refined and achieve the promised clockspeeds.

Maybe Ivy and BD will fail terribly.

Maybe not.
The 980X ES chips (A0) came clocked at 2.40GHz... The retail version is sold at 3.33GHz and the 990X is 3.47GHz. ES chips are always clocked low. Unless they came clocked extremely high, I wouldn't use them to gauge the final frequency of the retail chips.
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I'm a huge AMD fan and i'll take 22nm IB over 32nm enhanced BD. Die shrinks are evidently under-rated...
Over those two, you'd get a 14nm Pentium 4 if Intel bothered to produce them, yes? What exactly do you expect from an average die-shrink and what do you expect from this one? Given the numbers shown about the new 3d transistors, a 20% increase in perf looks likely.

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As far as what i bolded, no one said that or implied that. Dont know where you got that from.
The person I quoted implied that. Did consider what Intel is about to deliver in 2012, but didn't consider what AMD will. I see this a lot in various places and I keep wondering why people are incapable of looking at the whole picture of what the future brings.

Given how AMD showed a laptop running Trinity today, enhanced BD cores might be closer than we expect, maybe Q2, same as Ivy Bridge.

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Same chip twice? IB will be the SB of 2012... And with the dieshrink and slight architectual changes you've got a clear winner. 5.5ghz on air anyone?
That was my point and further hint towards the article being garbage.
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Over those two, you'd get a 14nm Pentium 4 if Intel bothered to produce them, yes? What exactly do you expect from an average die-shrink and what do you expect from this one? Given the numbers shown about the new 3d transistors, a 20% increase in perf looks likely.


The person I quoted implied that. Did consider what Intel is about to deliver in 2012, but didn't consider what AMD will. I see this a lot in various places and I keep wondering why people are incapable of looking at the whole picture of what the future brings.

Given how AMD showed a laptop running Trinity today, enhanced BD cores might be closer than we expect, maybe Q2, same as Ivy Bridge.


That was my point and further hint towards the article being garbage.
A 20% increase + better overclockability over an already phenomenal Sandy Bridge is A+ in my book, especially in the market that Intel seems to be going with Ivy bridge.

And to answer your question, hell yes i'd take a 14nm P4... Thatd be fun as hell. As far as your comment on me getting it only because Intel produced it? I have an AMD rig and a loyal AMD customer but i won't let that take anything away from Intel...

And you are contradicting your self when bashing on IB being "just a die shrink"... When BD enhanced is still on 32nm, everything packed on i don't see room for any kind of notable architectual improvements other than better steppings and silicon which will result in slightly better clock speed achievements(nothing close to a dieshrink). We will just have to see though.

With that said, i'm STILL most likely going BD, assuming its single threaded performance isnt as horrendous as the preliminary benchmarks are indicating. I like being an AMD guy but i'm extremely impressed with SB and IB will build upon that success.
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post #86 of 107
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Actually yes they are Tri-gate chips look here.

Whats with all of the stupidity lately? ES chips have been low clocked like this for some time and now all of a sudden people want to complain about it?

What's with 'I don't dare to read the whole post' trend?

I did not say they weren't trigate. Look down my post, I specificly talk about trigate.

I said 'Actually no' about Intel duplicating clock speeds out of a die revision.
   
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I might wait till the second wave of 22nm products. there's always something severely bugging with the first releases.
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Lot of High Hoping in this thread. IB 1155 will not have more than 4 cores, there will also not be any unlocked processors.

You will have to wait for IB 2011 at the end of 2012 for those features.

People are crazy to think Intel will let IB-1155 take business away from SB-E.

Get a grip folks.
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post #89 of 107
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Lot of High Hoping in this thread. IB 1155 will not have more than 4 cores, there will also not be any unlocked processors.

You will have to wait for IB 2011 at the end of 2012 for those features.
Source?
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Source?
I haven't heard this either. I was mostly anticipating at least a six core IB for 1155.
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