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post #31 of 72
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Originally Posted by PanicProne View Post
Yeah... No.

Not going to happen, sorry. How can it possibly even work if the pin count is different?

Intel never did this, and they certainly won't do it now.
They aren't saying the same socket silly, they are saying the chipset will support both chips. So you will see x79 1366 boards and x79 2011 boards.

Anyway, I think it would be pretty cool, you'd get support for all the extra features of the x79 chipset.
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post #32 of 72
Why not? If they can just slap a 1366 socket on a x79 board, it is more money in their pocket. Granted one of the ram slots would be useless, or just removed. It would provide people with 1366 chips a path to pcie 3.0 and native usb 3.0.

They probably noticed that a lot of 1366 owners were sticking with their current setups since it wasn't worth while performance boost in almost all scenarios for them to go to 1155. Now we know nothing about 2011 numbers and performance so that is yet to be seen. My guess is that it wont be a GIANT jump in performance, but a huge jump in efficiency and more cores. Pure speculation on my part.

TLDR more boards sold to people who otherwise would just stick with their 1366 setups for a few more years or more. (If this is true of course)
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post #33 of 72
It's not going to happen and not because of the pin count. That is the least disruptive cause. Pin count is nothing compared to the other reasons.

X58 needs a "chipset" for the pcie lanes and x79 does not.

If they do release an X79 for the lga1366, it will just be a X58 chipset that they rename to X79.
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Those motherboards would cost a fortune, it'd be cheaper to just build two separate PCs...
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post #35 of 72
Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not up on the X79 features. But that would allow current 1366 CPUs to have boards w/ UEFI, SSD caching, and so forth right? My X58 board doesn't have onboard USB3 headers or SATAIII.

I know some are like "why" but for me it makes sense. I'm a gamer, not a hardcore overclocker. I have way more CPU power than I need for gaming (probably for at least a year or more) but would love the features of a new motherboard. If this pans out, sounds like a win-win to me.
    
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post #36 of 72
I just simply cannot wait for the next true X58 successor .LGA2011 should really be a stunner. I shall build a Beast. I do not want a CPU with an integrated graphics core in it.
post #37 of 72
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Not sure how this is remotely surprising or controversial. Serious lack of long term memory going on around here; there have long been chipsets that have lasted through multiple CPU sockets.

Chipsets do not support CPUs. CPUs do not support chipsets. A CPU has some sort of bus that will connected to another part with the same sort of bus.

LGA-1366 and LGA-2011 both use QPI. Therefore they can connect to other components that use QPI, like another LGA-1366 or LGA-2011 CPU, or any chipset with a QPI bus.

Pretty damn simple, and that's the point.



The vast majority of the pins do not go to the chipset.

LGA-1366 and LGA-2011 use the same QPI bus to connect to the chipset.

Chipsets for both platforms should be interchangeable.



It's one of the fundamental reason's for QPI and Hypertransport's existence.
QFT. More people need to read the blasted thread.
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post #38 of 72
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Yeah... No.

Not going to happen, sorry. How can it possibly even work if the pin count is different?

Intel never did this, and they certainly won't do it now.
1366 socket X79 chipset.


See Asus Danshui Bay concept.
 
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post #39 of 72
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Yeah... No.

Not going to happen, sorry. How can it possibly even work if the pin count is different?

Intel never did this, and they certainly won't do it now.
It means x79 would use the same QPI Link as x58, it's the same as how you could use a 990FX on a Socket 939 board and it'd work fine.
    
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It's not going to happen and not because of the pin count. That is the least disruptive cause. Pin count is nothing compared to the other reasons.

X58 needs a "chipset" for the pcie lanes and x79 does not.

If they do release an X79 for the lga1366, it will just be a X58 chipset that they rename to X79.
If you look at the Asus board they did it just by dropping in a 1366 socket. Shows it isn't impossible by any means.
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