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I wonder if this means there will be 1366 sandy bridge or ivy bridge releases in the future...
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I have to correct my earlier statement, X79 uses DMI, and optionally 4 PCI-E lanes on top of that, to connect to LGA-2011, not QPI.

X79 could not connect directly to an LGA-1366 CPU, but it could connect to an X58 (or one of the other workstation chipsets that supports QPI) in place of the standard ICH10R.

My main point still stands: CPU socket is not the limiting factor; the buses involved are.

X58 has DMI and PCI-E lanes, so you can plug an X79 into it.





My hypothetical LGA-1366 X58/X79 board:



Quote:
Originally Posted by homestyle View Post
It's not going to happen and not because of the pin count. That is the least disruptive cause. Pin count is nothing compared to the other reasons.

X58 needs a "chipset" for the pcie lanes and x79 does not.

If they do release an X79 for the lga1366, it will just be a X58 chipset that they rename to X79.
Or it could be an X58 board with the X79 PCH in place of the ICH10R.

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Originally Posted by SeanWebster View Post
I wonder if this means there will be 1366 sandy bridge or ivy bridge releases in the future...
Probably not.
Edited by Blameless - 6/14/11 at 3:02am
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My hypothetical LGA-1366 X58/X79 board:





Or it could be an X58 board with the X79 PCH in place of the ICH10R.
I'm 90% certain this is how Asus banged together that concept motherboard, though I have to wonder where the second DMI connection came from...
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I'm 90% certain this is how Asus banged together that concept motherboard, though I have to wonder where the second DMI connection came from...
What second DMI?

Also, DMI is essentially just a bundle of four PCI-E lanes.
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For the LGA2011 CPU, I mean.
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Originally Posted by Chunky_Chimp View Post
For the LGA2011 CPU, I mean.
Ah, I see what you are saying.

Honestly, with the LGA-1366 + LGA-2011 combo I'd just omit the X58 entirely and connect the LGA-1366 socket directly to the LGA-2011 one with a QPI link, leaving the X79 the only chipset on the board.

However, this would mean that you would need an LGA-2011 chip no matter what, as the LGA-1366 socket couldn't connect to the rest of the system without it.

I'm not entirely sure how the ASUS prototype is laid out, or what their exact goals were, but it really seem to me that leaving one chip without a direct connection to any chipset would be the simplest option. It would also be logical to omit the X58 as it's functions are duplicated to a superior extent on the LGA-2011 CPUs themselves.

If backwards compatibility was a serious concern, the opposite could be done. The LGA-2011 socket could be connected only to the LGA-1366 (plus possibly have it's own PCI-E lanes), while the LGA-1366 chip connected to an X58 + X79.

I'm not exactly sure what combinations are viable, but there are current QPI based LGA-1366/1567 multi-socket board boards that have multiple chipsets (hanging off the second QPI bus on each of the CPUs). It might even be possible to have the X79 connected to both the X58 chipset (via DMI) and the LGA-2011 CPU (via 4x PCI-E 3.0 lanes, or the second DMI).
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Once it's official then I’ll believe it.
    
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Intel Corp.'s next-generation high-end core-logic known as X79 may support both current enthusiast-class chips in LGA1366
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1366 is dead

I knew this would happen going Intel, but its still a quite capable setup for some time. I won't be upgrading till I see a real reason to. Which will be a while. I just would like Intel to drop prices on high end 1366 cpus, but why would they when they can force a new socket on you.

Also if you had the choice between a slower 1366 CPU or supposedly much faster 2011 CPU why bother with 1366. Unless the high end 1366 cpus still match speed which begs to question the socket change.
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1366 is dead
The successor for 1366 (2011) is out?

Well why wasn't I told?
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