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see OP... noob
Hey kackbag, he was commenting on the people who were talking about dedicated "gaming" headsets.

Context. You gots none...
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see OP... noob
Right.. I was more explaining to you than I was to the OP. Haven't been called a noob since I was 12 and playing a certain browser MMO.
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AD700s have never been the best. They are open back, and as such they lack the isolation and bass impact a good pair of closed cans can produce.

If you only intend to game with them, Razer is the way to go. And this is coming from a regular Head-Fi poster. The fact of the matter is Razer uses some surround virtualization and sound signature tweaks that make their cans very good for gaming, especially at the price.
    
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AD700s have never been the best. They are open back, and as such they lack the isolation and bass impact a good pair of closed cans can produce.

If you only intend to game with them, Razer is the way to go. And this is coming from a regular Head-Fi poster. The fact of the matter is Razer uses some surround virtualization and sound signature tweaks that make their cans very good for gaming, especially at the price.
Well I tried out the Razer Carcharias and they sounded horrible. I don't know which one you are talking about.

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post #25 of 31
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Right.. I was more explaining to you than I was to the OP. Haven't been called a noob since I was 12 and playing a certain browser MMO.
Wasn't he calling the guy who said the Megalodon's were good audio quality a noob? Or was that you? After I post this I'll go back and see who that was again...

So here's my EDIT for that: Uhh... Yeah there was a lack of identification on that, I can't even tell who he was referring too.

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AD700s have never been the best. They are open back, and as such they lack the isolation and bass impact a good pair of closed cans can produce.

If you only intend to game with them, Razer is the way to go. And this is coming from a regular Head-Fi poster. The fact of the matter is Razer uses some surround virtualization and sound signature tweaks that make their cans very good for gaming, especially at the price.
You know, the Carcharias (a Razer headset I am currently an owner of) have slim to no bass and are open back. And the Megalodon, another Razer headset this one I am not an owner of, is also open back and as such most likely lacks/possesses the same amount of bass as the Carcharias. And these products are labeled "gaming" so they are overpriced. In an honest guess here, I am willing to bet that the RX700's with a sound card have better audio quality than the Carcharias or the Megalodon's for a fraction of the price. And they are closed back with good bass so they have that isolation and impact you were talking about for closed cans.

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Well I tried out the Razer Carcharias and they sounded horrible. I don't know which one you are talking about.
I have the Carcharias, they aren't tooooo bad. I know they would be destroyed compared to the AD700's in every aspect though (except quantity of bass, they are probably equal on that). So if your budget is strictly at $100, then use NEWCUSTOMER10 at newegg to get the AD700's for $10 off and then as soon as you can, pick up the Asus Xonar DG, its $35 with a $10 MIR. If you can budget a little higher though, I would say go for the A700's, closed back brother of the AD700's, I have a post in this thread recommending them on the first page.
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Particularly the Megaladon has a good reputation amongst friends and coworkers who have used them, but they are a bit above the price range. As far as the open/closed situation, I stand corrected. My apologies if I led anyone astray. If I had exactly $100 to spend only on Newegg, I'd most likely get Sennheiser PC161s.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16826106158
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Particularly the Megaladon has a good reputation amongst friends and coworkers who have used them, but they are a bit above the price range. As far as the open/closed situation, I stand corrected. My apologies if I led anyone astray. If I had exactly $100 to spend only on Newegg, I'd most likely get Sennheiser PC161s.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16826106158
..You post on HeadFi and you're recommending the Megalodon?

...No.

The AD700s are the best gaming phones under $100 because they have the largest soundstage. They have a large soundstage BECAUSE they're open (all the best gaming headphones are open). The Razer Megalodon are "virtual 7.1", which is exactly why you shouldn't buy them. Almost every single card recommended on these forums has the option to enable virtual surround sound with a normal pair of stereo headphones. Not to mention the Megalodon has an issue with its Mic.. and it's by Razer.

tl;dr the Razer Megalodon is exactly what you're warned against in the Frequently Recommended thread...
They're a USB gaming headset made by a gaming company with built in 7.1 surround.

Please, do not waste money at ANY budget.
post #28 of 31
Really the only problem with the mic on the megalodon's though is that they need extra wattage for power to be able to use the mic with out the static and to fix it you just need an external USB hub. The problem that Narzon already underlined about the Megalodon's as well, besides that it is labeled gaming, is that its a pair of headphones with "7.1 surround sound." Meaning the units that are producing that "7.1 surround sound" in the headphones of the megalodon were all probably purchased at a really cheap price and that's gonna cut the audio quality compared to using just 2 of those units (I forget what they were called, I read some one saying this earlier and forget where) because 2 quality units would be way better than 7 crappy ones.

It's always a touch choice, open vs. closed, because one has that huge sound stage for directional audio, and one has that impact that just smacks you across the ear when you hear explosions and such. I love that impact lol Haven't gotten to use a pair of headphones yet with a large sound stage, gotta upgrade my entire rig before I get to focus on the Audio portion of it. Just personal preference IMHO. But, basically, to answer your question, best head phones under $100 for gaming, straight up the AD700's.
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post #29 of 31
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The problem that Narzon already underlined about the Megalodon's as well, besides that it is labeled gaming, is that its a pair of headphones with "7.1 surround sound." Meaning the units that are producing that "7.1 surround sound" in the headphones of the megalodon were all probably purchased at a really cheap price and that's gonna cut the audio quality compared to using just 2 of those units (I forget what they were called, I read some one saying this earlier and forget where) because 2 quality units would be way better than 7 crappy ones.
You're thinking about "real 7.1", where they cram extra tiny drivers into each earcup and pretend it's a home theater setup. Those are the worst. The Megalodons (as I recall) use a built "virtual 7.1" software and then connect that software via USB. Very similar to the G35. Many actually like this "virtual" surround, and it's debatable as to how useful it is ingame. The problem with buying a virtual surround headset is that it's not needed. You can get a good pair of stereo headphones and utilize the same basic technology (Dolby Headphones on Xonar card, CMSS3D on Creative card). The Megalodons are mediocre stereo phones, especially for their price, so there's really no point in purchasing them.
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You can't judge headphones based on bass quantity. The AD700 are awesome for the price and have sufficient bass imo.
Also, when playing fps it's better not to have too much bass because it actually makes it harder to hear directional sounds.
I am of the opinion that bass always sucks in headphones. I'm wearing a pair of DT990s right now which are supposed to have some of the ballerest base in the headphone world and I don't notice it being significantly better than on the AD700s I was using before. Headphones simply can't move enough air to ever get real bass going.
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