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Originally Posted by digiadventures;13865379 
If you have the money for high end system,I am sure you could spare 100-200$ more for a decent monitor.

Well this is just the core of the problem. This is always the argument in everything, whether it be monitors, software, GPUs, whatever. But the thing is that computers are such a relatively cheap thing that some people who buy these high end setups might not be comfortable with spending that extra 200$ for something that they might view as only marginally better. Sure you can say the difference is drastic but I could make the same argument about choosing watercooling over air, but if you're not interested or made of money you're going to choose air cooling and spend the money you saved somewhere else.

Some people just do not see the value of spending that 200$ more, and you could argue that they're idiots or something but I'm sure all of us do decisions like that. The thing is that if you ended up always spending that small amount of more money for every product you bought you'd end up spending a whole lot of money.

I agree that it might be stupid to have a crappy panel and quad SLI 580s for some normal gaming, but you have to remember that people have different priorities. Most benchers use some awful screens and have beastly setups and also spend ridiculous amounts of money for cooling. Is that silly? no it isn't. It's what they want to do, and do with their setup and that's why they bought the products they have.

The trick is to find the right balance for yourself, and I think that other people should not question what you buy.

For example I've been told many times that my screen is just bad and that I should have gotten a lesser GPU setup. On top of that I just pent 250€ for a watercooling setup. But these people saying these things are considering my setup and purchases from their own point of view. If the thing I like is to have more FPS that my screen's refresh rate all the time with maxed out settings, I'm going to need some GPU power to do it. I also like tweaking, especially CPUs and that's why I bought the watercooling loop.

I'm not that much bothered by my screen at the moment. I've seen much better panels and screens but at the moment the difference is not worth that extra for me.
 
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TN vs IPS doesn't really matter for gaming. and eyefinity is mostly for gaming. Ergo, TN doesn't matter for eyefinity.
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Most people don't even calibrate their monitors properly. They're content with just fiddling with the settings until it "looks good." X-rite to dial in then make a color profile, or you might as well just be looking at a color-saturated image for all you know.

Sure, TNs are a little low on the blue side, but being able to actually make things out as you pull a 90 to 180 degree turn is pretty useful. Of course that's completely overlooked by all the double rainbow people.. or is it a triple rainbow?!
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Originally Posted by Boyboyd;13865501 
TN vs IPS doesn't really matter for gaming. and eyefinity is mostly for gaming. Ergo, TN doesn't matter for eyefinity.

Some people appreciate the difference more, even in games. I would find the difference between TN and IPS worth it for games.


Also, IPS is preferrable for eyefinity because of better viewing angles, but that is besides the point of this thread.
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I'm guessing the majority of gamers don't have a clue what an IPS panel is.
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Well quick google search showed there really aren't any 120 mhz ips panels.So I guess if you are really into that,then you should buy tn panel.
Other then that,I still stand by my point.I think a lot of people don't realize difference in picture quality between tn and both pva and ips. It's like playing a game with 4x anisotropic filtering and 2x antialiasing instead of 16x anisotropic and 4x or 8x antialiasing.
Would you buy a sli 580 setup and play game with 4x af and 2x aa ? Guess not ?
That's the same thing you are doing on tn monitor.
Difference in not just in viewing angles. It's in overall picture quality.
I just like to have my game maxed.I currently own 560 ti SINGE card,and yet I bought ips monitor.That's how much important that is to me.I wouldn't even consider buying a single 580 not to mention sli on an tn panel. What's the point of turning all the settings in game up when I know there is one setting I won't be able to turn up. And that setting is overall picture quality : it's grayed out at low frown.gif on tn panel.
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Originally Posted by Draygonn;13865702 
I'm guessing the majority of gamers don't have a clue what an IPS panel is.

Lol, this is true of me. I've heard IPS mentioned a lot, but I don't actually KNOW the difference. Pretty sure I'm running TN panels, especially considering the general consensus that 120hz IPS screens are nearly non-existent...
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I have 2 computers, my gaming rig uses my HP zr30w 30" IPS in my sig and my other PC that my son uses mostly, is hooked up to a Samsung s27a550h 27" LED TN Panel.

Personally, i prefer the HP for the resolution. Viewing angles don't really bother me so much as long as it looks good at my sitting angle. The Samsung TN panel produces better colors and black levels IMO then the HP and the 2ms response time compared the the HP's 6 or 7ms is noticable to me.
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I have 2 computers, my gaming rig uses my HP zr30w 30" IPS in my sig and my other PC that my son uses mostly, is hooked up to a Samsung s27a550h 27" LED TN Panel.

Personally, i prefer the HP for the resolution. Viewing angles don't really bother me so much as long as it looks good at my sitting angle. The Samsung TN panel produces better colors and black levels IMO then the HP and the 2ms response time compared the the HP's 6 or 7ms is noticable to me.

The response time numbers that manufacturers advertise are lies. K? Most likely the actual figures are worse on the HP anyways, but the advertised figures are not the ones to trust.
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Originally Posted by BlakHart;13865794 
I have 2 computers, my gaming rig uses my HP zr30w 30" IPS in my sig and my other PC that my son uses mostly, is hooked up to a Samsung s27a550h 27" LED TN Panel.

Personally, i prefer the HP for the resolution. Viewing angles don't really bother me so much as long as it looks good at my sitting angle. The Samsung TN panel produces better colors and black levels IMO then the HP and the 2ms response time compared the the HP's 6 or 7ms is noticable to me.

I had complete different experience then you.I had a lot of tn monitors,and yes I had also samsung led tn panels,like xl2370 and none can compare to the ips monitor I bought : Dell U2311H. It has better contrast,black levels,and color are more vivid and accurate.
I am not sure how good are hp ips monitors,I cant find a review for your model,but I did find a review for zr24w it seems same manufacturer same series just different size.They said that monitor has very poor contrast ratio and is very slow for gaming ( 16 ms measured ). So I guess it's safe to assume your monitor also safers from same problems :
Quote from review :
The contrast ratio, on the other hand, was a little disappointing at just 760:1. Unlike the display on the Dell U2311H or the U2211H, the ZR24w suffers from some of the usual weaknesses of IPS technology, including below-average contrast and higher energy consumption—70 W by default, down to 53 W with the lower brightness"
Responsiveness: a little too slow for gaming
This is the one area that this monitor really struggles: a ghosting time of 16 ms, even with OverDrive turned on, means that it won't be able to handle fast-moving objects that are the hallmark of video games. It's hard to recommend the ZR24w to avid gamers.
http://www.digitalversus.com/hp-zr24w-p357_11099_23.html
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