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It's like saying, if you're going to get an IPS panel, why did you settle for only a 560Ti? You should have gotten a better card and not settle for less.

Your points somewhat make sense, but you're trying to correlate things that are too far apart. A TN panel does not equal lowered AA/AF and an IPS panel does not equal maxed AA/AF. IPS is for color accuracy and not for "superior" graphics quality. This is why people who have high-end GPUs still buy "crappy" TN monitors.

Like others said, there are different wants and needs for everyone. I'm not a graphic designer nor a photographer and I would prefer more vivid and non-accurate colors from TN panels than accurate colors from an e-IPS/IPS monitor. Plus, IPS panels usually have a lower max brightness (for the "correct" brightness) compared to TN panels that have much higher brightness levels to add on to that vivid effect (which I prefer for gaming/media).

My friend got a Dell U2211h and it's really not much better than most TN panels I see in stores. Of course it's not a true IPS panel, but it's "supposed" to be better.

It's a shame IPS panels are at least twice as expensive as a TN panel (true IPS panels run for way more than their 6-bit e-IPS counterparts). Even some higher-end TN panels can "look" better than an e-IPS monitor for the same price. I would rather get 2 decent looking monitors than 1 superior monitor if they both cost the same.
    
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Getting into IPS over TN is a pointless argument.

One is arguably better than the other, but you pay for it.

One may as well ask why get a Cadillac over a Mustang?

Its peoples preference vs. cost, and some just don't care. Like high-end audio. Some people don't care they can only go up to 16-bit / 44KHz, but listen to music all day.
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Most people who built there rigs don't get all of the parts at once do to money issues. Then some that do have enough to get their whole rigs. do it but grab a monitor that they can afford.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Me personally, my system has evolved over the past 2 years. The only thing that I have remaining for my original system is my 920 and my PSU. Plus too, I don't think a lot of people are educated about IPS monitors. I myself have only recently learned of them within the past couple months and I personally don't feel that they are worth it just yet for my budget. Would I love to have one now that I know about their existence? Oh by all means yes. But I just cannot rationalize spending over a thousand dollars for a 27" or 30" monitor (when I use a 27" LCD as a secondary and my 42" Plasma as my primary, I'm gonna stick with big screen). Expecially since that monitor would be worth more than my TV! Maybe sometime in the future when my budget would allow it. But not now. And too, you gotta think, to each his own. I personally don't think eyefinity is all that great. If the bezel wasn't there, I wouldnt be singing a different tune, but I wouldn't want to have that 1-1.5" gap between screens (hence the one big massive screen). Eventually the technology will be more affordable and look even better, so I personally am not going to invest anytime soon. It is simply to much money for a minor upgrade imo.
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Hmmm a thread like this makes me wonder.... what am I missing out on with my monitors. What exactly would I actually notice with IPS???

Like tangible differences considering I have never even seen a IPS monitor...
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Originally Posted by noahhova;13866018 
Hmmm a thread like this makes me wonder.... what am I missing out on with my monitors. What exactly would I actually notice with IPS???

Like tangible differences considering I have never even seen a IPS monitor...

Probably the best thing you can do to realize what it means is to go to a store that has one of them on display, and then browse the web with it, and see screenshots of games with it. Though you must keep in mind that they are not all the same by any means. What you see will be your experience for that single monitor ONLY. Not for any other IPS monitor.
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I cant tell the difference between tn and ips panels, just like i cant tell the diference between cheap speakers and multi hundred dollar
    
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Originally Posted by 182515;13866047 
I cant tell the difference between tn and ips panels, just like i cant tell the diference between cheap speakers and multi hundred dollar

I can't tell the difference in audio either, just don't have a tuned enough ear I guess. Makes me wonder if I will really notice much of a difference in monitors.

Actually are the Mac 30inch displays IPS cause I have seen those?? They do look good but I doubt I'd pay the premium price just for that.
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Yeah just because it's ips doesn't mean it's going to be good.You have to read reviews on the net before buying it,or see it live in a store.
What I am saying is that good ips monitor with good contrast ( 1000:1 not 750:1 like some ) and great response time is going to be better monitor when it comes to picture quality and everything alse then best tn panel there is.
To me actually colors are more vivid on dell ips then on any tn I tried ( and I tried samsung lg asus you name it ).
Colors are more accurate,but big in your face way,not just for profesionals. I only game and watch movies,and surf web,and yet I noticed a white color is not white at all on a tn panel.For some reason it's yellowish-white on every tn panel I tried ( or bluish white on led tn )
Yet I buy my first ips panel and it's finally..white
Contrast is also better,not to mention viewing angles.
And as far as I know my monitor is only e-ips,not true ips.It still kick ass of any tn I have ever tried.
Also I need to mention I am not only talking about ips here.My friend has benq 24 inch C-PVA monitor.
Contrast on that is amazing.We are talking about plazma black levels here.Neither ips nor tn can compare in contrast to pva.
I actually thought about buying benq or new asus who also has pva,but I got good deal on this ips so I went with it.
Bottom line,if you are gaming on 23-24 inch and you dont need 27 or even 30 inch then buying tn is even more of a wrong choice,because in this size range there are lot of option and they are almost same price as tn monitors.It's in 27-30 range when things start to get out of the control price wise
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Originally Posted by De-Zant;13865906 
The response time numbers that manufacturers advertise are lies. K? Most likely the actual figures are worse on the HP anyways, but the advertised figures are not the ones to trust.

Do you have any actual evidence to back this up? I'm not saying that the response times aren't different from actual usage depending on what they use to measure - but that's the same for anything (gas mileage, battery times, etc.)

It also depends on the quality of the TN panel you're buying - some are super cheap and terrible looking, some are really nice and with a color calibrator look excellent. I have both an IPS monitor for work, and TN surround setup - I don't need large angles for gaming, I'm sitting directly in front of the screens, they look amazing, but they are high quality TN panels.
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Originally Posted by 182515;13866047 
I cant tell the difference between tn and ips panels, just like i cant tell the diference between cheap speakers and multi hundred dollar
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Originally Posted by noahhova;13866061 
I can't tell the difference in audio either, just don't have a tuned enough ear I guess. Makes me wonder if I will really notice much of a difference in monitors.

Actually are the Mac 30inch displays IPS cause I have seen those?? They do look good but I doubt I'd pay the premium price just for that.
Someone doesn't need to have a perfect ear to hear quality audio. Either a person is half-deaf or they haven't heard the right speakers/cans yet if they think they can't tell a difference.

The easiest and cheapest way to hear the difference is with a decent pair of headphones. The difference is actually pretty shocking if all you've heard are computer and built-in TV speakers all your life.
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