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Originally Posted by Flying Donkey;13974908 
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/287?vs=100

The real question is are YOU joking?

No sorry. Also in that bench they aren't clocked to the same speed therefore it's invalid. Both mine and my friend's processor is clocked at 4GHz.
post #22 of 31
I'm sorry to say Raki8 that you are totally wrong (and I have a Bloomfield)

Sandy Bridge is a newer and more efficient architecture. They are the best CPU's for gaming, look at any review, they all say the same thing

Stop being ignorant and just accept that your i7 950 is not as good for gaming. X58 however, as an overall platform is better (imo)
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post #23 of 31
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Originally Posted by Vengeance47;13974976 
I'm sorry to say Raji8 that you are totally wrong (and I have a Bloomfield)

Sandy Bridge is a newer and more efficient architecture. They are the best CPU's for gaming, look at any review, they all say the same thing

Stop being ignorant and just accept that your i7 950 is not as good for gaming. X58 however, as an overall platform is better (imo)

In the reviews, they aren't clocked the same. When both of ours are at 4GHz, both of our HTs On, my 950 has a 10-20FPS in gaming. Just because it's newer doesn't make it better, that would mean that whatever AMD comes out with next instantly ***pwns Sandy Bridge. Also I'm an Engineer at Intel. While it does offer better value in most cases, and while in house tests and as you said reviews show SB to be better in performance, that doesn't always translate to instant real world performance. Now I will say that if I turn my HT off and he turns his off, I get the same results as those reviews, IE he get's a roughly 20% increase over me. But with HT on, at the same clock speed, mine is faster in the real world. And yes X58 is better as a platform overall. I don't use reviews as an indicator, I use real world tests and since my tests show that the 2600k performs the same as the i7 950 at 4GHz, HT On, then I'll keep my Bloomfield. I could buy a SB platform if I wanted to right now, but I don't, because my tests say that my 950 is better, not to mention I can encode video while playing Crysis at 60FPS whereas he cannot, least not at 60FPS.

Also spell my name right.
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While you make some valid points, this is REALLY the wrong thread for it.

-X58 is going to cost as much if not more than a comparable 1155 system, and he's already working on a tight budget.
-He's building this for gaming, so HT is irrelevant (if not a performance detriment).
-If you and your friend are both clocked at 4ghz and you are out performing him, there is something wrong with his setup.
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Originally Posted by Raji8;13975070 
In the reviews, they aren't clocked the same. When both of ours are at 4GHz, both of our HTs On, my 950 has a 10-20FPS in gaming. Just because it's newer doesn't make it better, that would mean that whatever AMD comes out with next instantly ***pwns Sandy Bridge. Also I'm an Engineer at Intel. While it does offer better value in most cases, and while in house tests and as you said reviews show SB to be better in performance, that doesn't always translate to instant real world performance. Now I will say that if I turn my HT off and he turns his off, I get the same results as those reviews, IE he get's a roughly 20% increase over me. But with HT on, at the same clock speed, mine is faster in the real world. And yes X58 is better as a platform overall. I don't use reviews as an indicator, I use real world tests and since my tests show that the 2600k performs the same as the i7 950 at 4GHz, HT On, then I'll keep my Bloomfield. I could buy a SB platform if I wanted to right now, but I don't, because my tests say that my 950 is better, not to mention I can encode video while playing Crysis at 60FPS whereas he cannot, least not at 60FPS.

Also spell my name right.

Also, learn how to format your post with punctuation in more places, and paragraphing where deserved.
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post #26 of 31
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Originally Posted by Raji8;13975070 
In the reviews, they aren't clocked the same. When both of ours are at 4GHz, both of our HTs On, my 950 has a 10-20FPS in gaming. Just because it's newer doesn't make it better, that would mean that whatever AMD comes out with next instantly ***pwns Sandy Bridge. Also I'm an Engineer at Intel. While it does offer better value in most cases, and while in house tests and as you said reviews show SB to be better in performance, that doesn't always translate to instant real world performance. Now I will say that if I turn my HT off and he turns his off, I get the same results as those reviews, IE he get's a roughly 20% increase over me. But with HT on, at the same clock speed, mine is faster in the real world. And yes X58 is better as a platform overall. I don't use reviews as an indicator, I use real world tests and since my tests show that the 2600k performs the same as the i7 950 at 4GHz, HT On, then I'll keep my Bloomfield. I could buy a SB platform if I wanted to right now, but I don't, because my tests say that my 950 is better, not to mention I can encode video while playing Crysis at 60FPS whereas he cannot, least not at 60FPS.

Also spell my name right.

If your gonna compare OC'd cpus then you have to compare them at their max OC's where SB will dominate anything else and have cooler temps doing it.
Anyway SB is faster clock for clock than gen 1 i series chips and should beat your i7 at equal speeds, unless of course he has a weaker gpu, or massively slower RAM, or higher settings, or higher resolution, etc.
    
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post #27 of 31
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Originally Posted by OutOfBalanceOX;13975260 
If your gonna compare OC'd cpus then you have to compare them at their max OC's where SB will dominate anything else and have cooler temps doing it.
Anyway SB is faster clock for clock than gen 1 i series chips and should beat your i7 at equal speeds, unless of course he has a weaker gpu, or massively slower RAM, or higher settings, or higher resolution, etc.

This.

And it's a lot more energy efficient @ stock as well.

With overclocking, SB's can hit 4.5-5GHz easily.
With a Nehalem you can't really hit 5 without some heavy WCing or some other exotic cooling.
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What is intel SB!?!?!
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What is intel SB!?!?!

SB = SandyBridge
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So SB is faster than i7?
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